JeffyBaby Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 The idea for this list came from a list posted by Don Rodolfo Graziani in the Kargir thread. The bigs go out to die, then Fatima resurrects them. Nefsokar - 999 points Troop 1 Nakhti Fatima w/Canopic Jar, Familiar Khamsin Herdsman x 4 Troop 2 Chosen of Sokar Khamsin Herdsman x 3 Troop 3 Chosen of Sokar Khamsin Herdsman x 3 Troop 4 Chosen of Sokar Khamsin Herdsman x 3 Troop 5 Chosen of Sokar Khamsin Herdsman x 3 Troop 6 Sokar's Avatar Troop 7 Avatar of Sekhmet Troop 8 Avatar of Sekhmet Troop 9 Avatar of Sekhmet Troop 10 Avatar of Sekhmet Luck Stone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex3 Posted June 17, 2012 Share Posted June 17, 2012 I want to start playing Warlord, but the description for the 2nd edition book has a list of armies... not including this one. So, do I need a second book as well or are Nefsokar in there too? Also, does anyone know where I can find the printable datacards? This thread - http://www.reapermini.com/forum/index.php?/topic/22368-printable-pdfs-of-all-data-cards/ - has dead links to a .pdf, and I can't find them anywhere else. I have no experience playing wargames, only painting reaper minis for tRPG characters. How many models should I be looking to get to start? My FLGS is having a painting contest soon and I want to use that to start my army, since I have to paint three from one "unit." Unfortunatley nobody there plays this, so it's hard to get help.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkreach Phil Posted June 17, 2012 Share Posted June 17, 2012 Nop...the nefsokar are not in there bcs the second book (Savage North) introduce 9 new factions. It's basically the same games with the same rules + some clarification. For the Datacard and Armybuilder you can go at: http://www.reapergames.com/ I'ts not about how many models it's about how many points and you have to respect the games rules about Leaders/Elites/soldiers and Monsters. I am new to this game and I start with 500 points. It's easier and after a few game you can go up to 1000 points, what peoples usually play are 1000 pts games. So look at the datacard and the the rules and go try to build yourself an army with the army builder at the same address. You can post it, there always someone to help around here. Happy so see you around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex3 Posted June 17, 2012 Share Posted June 17, 2012 Thanks! So, what books do I need to get? The 2nd edition one for the new rules, and what? Are the datacards enough? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkreach Phil Posted June 17, 2012 Share Posted June 17, 2012 Personally I bought the second edition for the new factions (Darkreach of course !!!). The rules are the same, the clarifications are "minor". I would buy the one with the factions you like. Because you basically buy the book for the details on rules and more background stories about the factions. All other datacards, factions doctrines and SA of the others faction can be found on this website I gave you. As of right now you don't need to own both books to play all factions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inarah Posted June 17, 2012 Share Posted June 17, 2012 If you want to play Nefsokar you should probably get the first volume because all the special abilities and doctrines for that faction are in there, and not in book 2 or on the web. There is an army creator and data card database at http://www.reapergames.com/ . You can use this to determine what models to pick, but it won't let you know if you have an illegal unit (like two commanders, or too many unique models). As for what to paint, pick something you like. Warlord doesn't have large units, at most you might have 8 figures: a leader, an elite, a spellcaster and a handful of soldiers. There are many "solo" units that consist of a single figure. Also, the rules allow you to proxy ANY Reaper figure, and there are many lovely sculpts in the DHL line that work. I'm fond of Bob Ridolfi's mummies and Egyptian themed figures: 3506: Egyptian Priestess and Baboon 3428: Barrow Warden Mystic 14098: Khufu, Nefsokar Warlord 14081: Netikerti, Nefsokar Mage 14048: Fatima, Nefsokar Cleric 14064: Khadath, Nefsokar Captain 2740: Mummy King on Throne Here's one from Werner Klocke you might use, too: 2594: Egyptian Priestess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shakandara Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 (edited) To be absolutely clear, there are two 2nd edition books: Warlord 2 and Savage North. Both books contain the full rules needed to play the game. The first book contains the old core factions (including Nefsokar) and all the datacards and special abilities for each of the factions that appear in it. The second book contains 9 different factions with all their datacards and abilities. It also contains a painting guide. You do not strictly need one book or the other if you aren't planning to play a faction that is in it (in your case, Savage North, as Nefsokar appear in the core book). However, should you face an opponent that plays one of the Savage North armies, you might want to know what their capabilities are, so I'd recommend getting the other book at some point anyway. As for what you can expect to paint, numbers-wise, a typical Warlord 2 army list at 1000 points (the point value the game was designed for) is around 20-30 models. This can vary wildly based on play-style preference; armies can be as small as a handful of models (<10), to massive hordes (70+). Take a scan through some of the army lists that people have posted in this thread for ideas of what to try out. My recommendation is then to use models you already have as proxies to see if you like how the list plays. Tinker with it until you find a good base list that you like to play, then start getting your models to fill the list. At that point, you can implement Inarah's suggestion regarding proxies for any models that you don't care for the appearance of. You should then have an army that a) performs the way you like, and b) looks the way you want. ~v Edited June 18, 2012 by Shakandara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shakandara Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 Speaking of favorite lists, I just realized that while I'd posted this one in another thread, it never made it here. This is the list I used to win the RCon tournament in 2011. I hate the Khamsin Lancer sculpts (ok, I dislike pretty much all the "human" models in the faction), so I had Froggy convert some Daughters of Sehkmet to ride the dire crocs (both the DHL and P-65 versions) as my cavalry. I absolutely love them, and they look super cool on the battlefield. Nefsokar - 1000 points (People of the Desert Wind doctrine) Troop 1 Senet Net'merew w/Armor of Courage Sokar's Prophet Sokar's Prophet w/Book of Tactics Khamsin Lancer x 10 Troop 2 Ah'radivh w/Armor of Courage Sokar's Prophet Khamsin Lancer x 5 Troop 3 Khathan w/Magic Ranged Weapon Troop 4 Dust Devil Totem of Battle Luck Stone Tactics: This build was all about dictating engagements with the enemy, and when the engagements happen, bringing ridiculous amounts of bonuses to assure that the target is destroyed. It is a high risk/high reward list. The average DV of the army is only 9, and the model count is relatively low (22) for an army using a Totem of Battle. Also, a full 148 points of the list are consumed in Equipment of one kind or another. Against the wrong list or scenario (particularly those in which taking and holding an objective is required), it would be shredded fairly quickly. However, with the ability to delay an opponent troop off the board until sometime in round 2, plus the high mobility of the force, it is possible to generate large point inequalities early in the battle. By using Khamsin Lancers, I had the ability to Leap over terrain and models, combine First Strikes to deny Defensive Strikes and Tough checks, and utilize the combination of Rage, Swift Attack (in conjunction with Senet's WA ability to grant a +1 MAV when Swift Attacking), Bless from the casters, the Totem, and even Inspire to generate MAVs of +9 to +10. The models in Ah'radivh's troop were only a bonus of one less. Very few models can withstand that kind of concentrated firepower, and the Swift Attack allowed me to consistently pull my cavalry back beyond attack range of the opponent. ~v Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stubbdog Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 Wow... I guess I need to change the security levels on some of the pages on my website. That link you provided was back for playtesting purposes. I guessI forget that people do google searches around here... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shogan Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 Hey Shakandara, would you post pics of those lancers Froggy converted for you. I picked the stuff up at reapercon to make them but I'm pretty new to conversions and would love an example. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shakandara Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 Sure. They aren't painted yet, which I guess is actually better, as you'll be able to see more clearly where he chopped and GS'd them to make them fit. I'll snap some pics of them tonight and post them either tonight or tomorrow. I have 7 (A Chosen as Senet and 6 Daughters as Lancers), but I am sorely tempted to find another leader (maybe a Chosen of Sokar?) to use as Ah'radivh, and get enough Daughters and Crocs to fulfill all the cavalry in that list. Perhaps at RAC in the fall... ~v Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkreach Phil Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 Wow... I guess I need to change the security levels on some of the pages on my website. That link you provided was back for playtesting purposes. I guessI forget that people do google searches around here... Sorry I didn't know it was private...I will edit my post to link to the reapergames version. My mistake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex3 Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Thanks for the help guys. I've got plenty of reaper minis from D&D characters and whatnot, and my BF and roommates have warhammer and warmahordes armies so proxying won't be hard. I'm going to try to get a few games in and see how it goes. They want me to play the games they do, but I really don't care for the armies as much as the reaper ones. Unfortunately I can't really explain WHY and that leads to frustration I think. The fact that NOBODY around here plays Warlord doesn't really help... but maybe I'll get some people to start playing. I could be a trend starter at my FLGS :3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shakandara Posted June 23, 2012 Share Posted June 23, 2012 Shogan, sorry this took so long, but here they are: The group: Chosen of Sekhmet for use as a leader (Senet or Ah'radivh) Daughter of Sekhmet, sculpt 1: Daughter of Sekhmet, sculpt 2: Hope this helps! ~v 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shogan Posted June 23, 2012 Share Posted June 23, 2012 Those look amazing! Can't wait to try it myself! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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