Sergeant_Crunch Posted August 24, 2009 Share Posted August 24, 2009 I want to at least have Kyra and Lavarath at least assembled and ready for primer before January but was wondering if I'd be better off using something other than the usual superglue? I'll be using brass rod and a bit of greenstuff to pin the pieces, but want to make sure the joints will hold. Depending on how long it takes me to get around to painting it, the mini may sit for over a year waiting on me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whizard Hlavaz Posted August 24, 2009 Share Posted August 24, 2009 If you're pinning, I'd go with a 2-part epoxy. Not a five a minute, but a full several hours curing time epoxy. You'll get a much stronger bond. I've had dragons without pins last for over 20 years using just epoxy. Pinning and epoxy-ing... that's a lifetime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
demonelf3 Posted August 24, 2009 Share Posted August 24, 2009 If you head to the Craft section on the site, there's a whole million page article on assembling Lavarath, plus the cinder one. Those are really great articles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humansquish Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 I pin and use JB Qwik weld. Its a 5 min epoxy but I find it holds good enough. I even had one fall 5 and a half feet to a carpeted floor and none of the connections broke. Its bent something fierce though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidVC04 Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 I pin and use JB Qwik weld. Its a 5 min epoxy but I find it holds good enough. I even had one fall 5 and a half feet to a carpeted floor and none of the connections broke. Its bent something fierce though. Oh god, I've had that experience. It was terrifying. My treeman fell from over my head, above 6 ft, but the green stuff and two-part epoxy held. It was also the 5 min kind. No damage at all. For all my heavy, metal models, I use two-part epoxy. And I usually don't pin, but for a full-blown dragon, yeah, I'd pin and epoxy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant_Crunch Posted August 25, 2009 Author Share Posted August 25, 2009 Groovy, thanks. I hadn't checked out The Craft in a loooong time so didn't realize there were already articles on the subject. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator TaleSpinner Posted August 25, 2009 Moderator Share Posted August 25, 2009 Epoxy...for all your gluing needs. Typically I only use super glue to temporarily hold things together for playing when I don't have time to fully prep the piece first. Then I can just go break it apart later, prep it and put it together with epoxy. Someone on here (can't remember who now, sorry) had a really great idea about using a tub of sand to sink the models into while gluing with Epoxy. you can use the sand to imobilize the parts while the epoxy is drying. I just did this with the arms of my new Thunderbird and it worked great. Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zinzig Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 Agreeing with what others are saying...epoxy for the big stuff. That means anything that's on a 40mm and up base to me. The little guys that fit on a 20 or 25mm base are usually fine with just superglue and pins, sometimes just superglue is ok. I just use the 2 or 5 minute epoxy, no problems. -Z Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kang Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 Agreed on the 24hr epoxy + pinning (& surprised to see so many others suggest it). I rarely use super glue, even on small bits. My most recent project is a ~1984 Grenadier dragon I repainted after his unpinned 5-minute-epoxied wings came off and his paint got badly chipped while stored in a box of minis over many years. It fell on the floor after I had 24-hr-epoxied/pinned the wings back on - the bond held; the wing's tip snapped off. Sort of like Humansquish's story, except mine landed on the hardwood. First time I've ever been happy to see one of my minis break! Kang Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rastl Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 I use epoxy on pretty much everything these days. I'm tired of the brittle superglue bonds and it's not that much more work to mix up a bit of 5 minute epoxy and get a really good join. The other advantage is that I can use epoxy to fill small gaps at the same time. Yes, I'm lazy that way. For the really large stuff I'll cross-pin the areas that I know will take abuse. Wings are NOT handles, people! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeD Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 Agreed on the 24hr epoxy + pinning (& surprised to see so many others suggest it). I rarely use super glue, even on small bits. I'm right with you. Unless the parts have a molded in peg to form a good mechanical joint, I pin everything. Heads to torsos, arms to shoulders, hands to wrists. Everything gets pinned. I just got tired of repairing broken butt joints. As far as epoxy, I do use epoxy a lot, when large bits are being glued on, or when two parts do not mate closely as it fills gaps better then even "gap filling" superglue. I do still use superglue for smaller pieces. I have never had a problem with small, pinned superglue joints and some times its just too much trouble to mix up two-part epoxy just to glue a tiny part on. Someone on here (can't remember who now, sorry) had a really great idea about using a tub of sand to sink the models into while gluing with Epoxy. you can use the sand to imobilize the parts while the epoxy is drying. Wow! I never heard of that before, what a great idea! <runs out to fill a bucket with sand for his next big figure project> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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