Veronus Posted September 21, 2009 Share Posted September 21, 2009 I haven't fielded an army this big, total noob. I've played a couple of small skirmishes with 1st ed. so feel free to critique and comment :) Thanks! Elves - 1492 points Troop 1 Argyrian, Silver Dragon Familiar x 2 Centaur Warrior Vale Warrior x 2 Lysette Niriodel Troop 2 Selwyn Vale Archer x 3 Vale Long Thorn x 2 Hunting Cat Caerwynn Vale Warrior Troop 3 Turanil Ellithin Graysteel Vale Warrior x 5 Troop 4 Daereth, Royal Guardsman Death Seeker Royal Guardsman Vale Warrior Ardynn Aviriel Tellerion, Elf Paladin Troop 5 Mossbeard the Treeman Troop 6 Silvermaine, Unicorn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinden Posted September 21, 2009 Share Posted September 21, 2009 First thing is add a luck stone in there A stock strategy that is used a lot is to take someone like Caerwynn with a magic range weapon and put 2 arcane casters in her troop. Have both casters cast mirror image on Caerwynn. This gives you 3 archers that have 2 attacks at Rav 7 if you focus. And each one has weapon master. Add a whole troop of Vale archers with that and in that activation you should be able to dish out a lot of ranged damage, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veronus Posted September 21, 2009 Author Share Posted September 21, 2009 First thing is add a luck stone in there A stock strategy that is used a lot is to take someone like Caerwynn with a magic range weapon and put 2 arcane casters in her troop. Have both casters cast mirror image on Caerwynn. This gives you 3 archers that have 2 attacks at Rav 7 if you focus. And each one has weapon master. Add a whole troop of Vale archers with that and in that activation you should be able to dish out a lot of ranged damage, OH, that is lethal! Got it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veronus Posted September 21, 2009 Author Share Posted September 21, 2009 First thing is add a luck stone in there A stock strategy that is used a lot is to take someone like Caerwynn with a magic range weapon and put 2 arcane casters in her troop. Have both casters cast mirror image on Caerwynn. This gives you 3 archers that have 2 attacks at Rav 7 if you focus. And each one has weapon master. Add a whole troop of Vale archers with that and in that activation you should be able to dish out a lot of ranged damage, Is there another Arcance caster besides Lysette in the Elves faction? I see Larnach but he is a Warlord so that would out my Argyrian strategy.. Thanks! Veronus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinden Posted September 21, 2009 Share Posted September 21, 2009 Nope, those are the only 2, so you couldn't use this one with Argyrian. You can at least do it one time and still use him though, or get rid of him if you more of a ranged army. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdripley Posted September 21, 2009 Share Posted September 21, 2009 Can you have two familiars? Troop 1 bugs me, perhaps it's just my particular play style. I rarely take a caster in a troop that doesn't have adequate warrior presence to protect them and screen them. Argyrian's going to be doing his thing off on his own, and a Centaur and 2 elves do not comprise an adequate screen. Now.... If you're keeping that troop in the back, and have all of your other troops ranging out ahead of your casters, that's another thing alltogether. Scares me to death, but I can see it working. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vil-hatarn Posted September 22, 2009 Share Posted September 22, 2009 Can you have two familiars? Troop 1 bugs me, perhaps it's just my particular play style. I rarely take a caster in a troop that doesn't have adequate warrior presence to protect them and screen them. Argyrian's going to be doing his thing off on his own, and a Centaur and 2 elves do not comprise an adequate screen. Now.... If you're keeping that troop in the back, and have all of your other troops ranging out ahead of your casters, that's another thing alltogether. Scares me to death, but I can see it working. I think one's for Lysette and the other's for Argyrian... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veronus Posted September 22, 2009 Author Share Posted September 22, 2009 Can you have two familiars? Troop 1 bugs me, perhaps it's just my particular play style. I rarely take a caster in a troop that doesn't have adequate warrior presence to protect them and screen them. Argyrian's going to be doing his thing off on his own, and a Centaur and 2 elves do not comprise an adequate screen. Now.... If you're keeping that troop in the back, and have all of your other troops ranging out ahead of your casters, that's another thing alltogether. Scares me to death, but I can see it working. I think one's for Lysette and the other's for Argyrian... Yep, that's right. I'm working on building her a better frontline in that troop, but have already resolved myself to the fact that I will have to keep that troop in the back and protected. I think i can tweak it a little though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vil-hatarn Posted September 22, 2009 Share Posted September 22, 2009 If you get a chance to try this out, make sure to tell us how it went--I'm getting back into Warlord after quite a long time, and trying to work out my own elves...my impression so far is that the basic troopers are definitely on the weaker end compared to other factions. Not sure whether that means I should bring Royal Guards, or if mob tactics and some good magical and tactical support are the way to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merlonc Posted September 22, 2009 Share Posted September 22, 2009 Why give Argyrian a familiar? His one spell is Unique and can only be cast once by a caster per game. You should swap Nirodel and Caerwyn so Lysete can use Mirror Image or Blast on Caerwyn. Two 3" AOE archer attacks at RAV 6 is very harsh, Caerwyn can really use a magic bow to good effect. Troop one needs more screeners for Lysette and Caerwyn they die to missle fire fast. I have found Death Seekers and Vale Swordsmen very useful in my games so far. I have not used the Dragon yet. I tend towards Larnatch instead. Have you considered Peruhain to get his Bless to help the elves soldiers relatively low MAV/RAV? Long thorns in troop two are sort of wasted. They don't screen well and don'y have many front line troopers to support. To my mind you are Elite heavy and really need more Soldiers. What are planned tactics with this force? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qwyksilver Posted September 22, 2009 Share Posted September 22, 2009 Why give Argyrian a familiar? His one spell is Unique and can only be cast once by a caster per game. You should swap Nirodel and Caerwyn so Lysete can use Mirror Image or Blast on Caerwyn. Two 3" AOE archer attacks at RAV 6 is very harsh, Caerwyn can really use a magic bow to good effect. You can use the Familiar for LOS. The familiar can allow you to recover lost SP. Innate spells are not Unique. With the right Faction Doctrine, Argyrian can recover SP at a rate of 2 per turn and use it again in Turn 4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outkast Samurai Posted September 22, 2009 Share Posted September 22, 2009 Innate spells are not Unique. Trying to find this one in the book. It isn't listed under the spell tomes or under the SA for innate spells. Can you point me in the right direction Qwyk? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gus Landt Posted September 22, 2009 Share Posted September 22, 2009 Innate spells are not Unique. Trying to find this one in the book. It isn't listed under the spell tomes or under the SA for innate spells. Can you point me in the right direction Qwyk? Innate Spell says the model "may cast it as many times as they have Spell Points to do so". Also, page 37 on Special Abilities: "Occasionally an SA conflicts with a rule in this rulebook. In those cases, the rules for the SA override the rules found elsewhere in the rulebook." Therefore, innate Unique spells may be cast more than once. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veronus Posted September 22, 2009 Author Share Posted September 22, 2009 Innate spells are not Unique. Trying to find this one in the book. It isn't listed under the spell tomes or under the SA for innate spells. Can you point me in the right direction Qwyk? Innate Spell says the model "may cast it as many times as they have Spell Points to do so". Also, page 37 on Special Abilities: "Occasionally an SA conflicts with a rule in this rulebook. In those cases, the rules for the SA override the rules found elsewhere in the rulebook." Therefore, innate Unique spells may be cast more than once. I am elite heavy, trying to squeeze 1500 points out of my collection, so to make this work I'm going to stock up on some more soldiers....what should I look at? Royal Guardsmen, Deathseekers, Centaur Warriors etc? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veronus Posted September 22, 2009 Author Share Posted September 22, 2009 Innate spells are not Unique. Trying to find this one in the book. It isn't listed under the spell tomes or under the SA for innate spells. Can you point me in the right direction Qwyk? Innate Spell says the model "may cast it as many times as they have Spell Points to do so". Also, page 37 on Special Abilities: "Occasionally an SA conflicts with a rule in this rulebook. In those cases, the rules for the SA override the rules found elsewhere in the rulebook." Therefore, innate Unique spells may be cast more than once. Faeries or hunting cats useful? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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