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I follow the advice here:

 

http://www.paintingclinic.com/clinic/guest...s/magicwash.htm

 

I do not actually use Future, I use a generic acrylic floor finish. It is the same thing, minus the brand name. I am a big fan of magic washing, and I use it (or at least I use my water/acrylic finish mix) for most of my heavy washing.

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It pretty much works as advertised - the wash gets into the gaps better and clings to wide open surfaces much less often. You do need to watch for bubbles, but they are fairly easy to avoid.

 

I do not magic wash flesh very often - I find I get my best results just doing lots of layers of flesh and maybe a non-magic wash with very watery black paint to highlight the features. But for most of my non-vehicle washes I use the magic wash.

 

Not terribly helpful, I know, but the site you looked at describes its effects better than I can. I just know I like it.

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I'm not a fan of the future floor polish. I don't trust it with my good brushes and find that it dries a tad shiny.

 

I'd recommend you try flow improver and extender as per Aryanun's advice before settling on the Future. There have been several recipes for solutions listed on the board lately. Try them out, find what you like, and stick with it.

 

Naturally, that applies to Future. If you try it and like it, then go with it. Just don't get married without trying out some other options first.

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I've had better luck with the Future than with Flow Improver,  maybe it is just me.  My washes are a lot cleaner looking now.  Yes, it does increase the shininess, but a good coat of Testors Dull-Coat at the end clears that right up.  I have noticed no brush damage from the Future at all.

 

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I'm guilty of having recommended the magic wash on my site for several years.  It was very useful when I first started really painting (i.e. better than no additive at all) but over time I've switched to flow improvers and other 'real' art additives.  I have had much more success with advanced techniques using stuff designed for the job.  

 

However, magic wash/Future solution is still useful, and more economical if you're painting an army (perhaps why it is still so popular among historical painters).  Any brush cleaner which removes acrylics will dissolve it too.  

 

As with all painting, it comes down to what works best for you.

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I have been struggling with the exact ratio of Future to Wash.  I was adding it a drop at a time onto my pallette, but that never seemed to work consistantly, so this last time, I threw caution to the wind and just dumped a schwack of Futre & Water Mix into my G.W. armour wash.

 

Lucked out, and it's pretty close to workable.  The end result is very fruity smelling, and dries shny as mentioned, but it's not too bad.  Dull coat will cover as mentioned, and the water rinse seems to take most of the wax out.

 

Washing is sort of hit and miss though I find.  I still do it cuz that's what I'm used to, but for a "non-army" fig, I tend to layer flesh as well, and maybe do a bit of black lining.  (The beauty of a mini is all in the face IMO... ya get that right, and the rest of it sort of falls into place.)

 

You just have to experiment and find what works for you.  There are a hundred different techniques that can basically produce the same (or near enough to matter) effect.

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actually, i use future ENTIRELY because of paintrix's website. I haven't tried flow extenders, etc.

 

honestly, i don't really devote so much money to this hobby that i'd be willing to buy lots of different products & experiment with them. I bought some future, it works much better than nothing, dries shiny, but can be covered over with matte varnish. When the future runs out (which will take a long time, considering how much i really paint) then i'll experiment.

 

anyway, it's very hard to get a true review of anything 'cuz so many people are like me. We paint enough to experiment just enough to find something that works, but not enough to try everything & really give a blow by blow comparison.

 

but, fwiw, i've used future. It works. There may very well be better out there, but it's up to you how much you want to drive around to different art stores & compare different brands.

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... but it's up to you how much you want to drive around to different art stores & compare different brands.

Or, you could just listen to Jen and I and pick up Winsor & Newton Flow Improver and either the old Liquitex Slo-Dri (the clear, watery formula, not the white, gooey formula) or cheapo Plaid Folk Art Extender.  :;):  I guess my point is that really, if you want to experiment, sure; but you can also just ask your favorite painter what they use, since obviously they're getting results like you would like to!

 

I just don't like Future because I'm a brush-licker (and yes, I consider that an advantage, not a "bad habit" I should break!) and Future is toxic and tastes bad.  Well, that and I like to use stuff that's formulated to work with paint, rather than floors!!  :laugh:

 

--Anne

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So why exactly is brush-licking an advantage instead of a bad habit?

Several advantages:

 

1. It keeps the point of your brush nice and sharp; all bristles in line and accounted for.

 

2. It removes excess fluid left behind by the rinse bath from the bristles and prevents the dreaded runs...

 

3. Conversely, it adds needed fluid during wet-blending to give your paint that little extra bit of working time before it completely seals up on you.

 

That said, there are probably disadvantages galore for you health. My GF insists that the flow improver and extender in my paints are going to make me insane like Van Gogh... I wonder though... How will anyone be able to tell?  :D

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{snip}

I just don't like Future because I'm a brush-licker (and yes, I consider that an advantage, not a "bad habit" I should break!) and Future is toxic and tastes bad.  {snip}

--Anne

It's always nice when an established and respected talent comes out of the closet and admits to a "bad habit" you get regular ribbing over. :;):  :laugh:  :D

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