ViciousPanzer Posted May 26, 2010 Share Posted May 26, 2010 Interesting info. It would be really interesting to see the numbers for 1000 pt armies for other games as a comparison. Wouldn't really be relevant for some games. GW's Warhammer 40k uses 2,500 point forces in tournaments I believe. I may be wrong. Haven't played that since discovering Warlord lol. In any even tI do know people who have spent 2-3 thousand dollars on just 2 or 3 armies for that game and still are missing things they'd like to have. Joshua Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerridwyn1st Posted May 26, 2010 Share Posted May 26, 2010 I hope this doesn't sound hokey, but you know the plastics make some of the armies even less expensive. Also more demo-friendly. Metal elf archers are very delicate, but plastic ones? Not so much. A unicorn for $5.99? Put it on a Cavalry base, add a little flocking, an you're done. Really, if they keep putting minis from Warlord out as plastics, it will be possible to have newbie-proof, inexpensive demo armies. What's not to love about that? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WizardOne Posted May 26, 2010 Share Posted May 26, 2010 Interesting info. It would be really interesting to see the numbers for 1000 pt armies for other games as a comparison. Wouldn't really be relevant for some games. GW's Warhammer 40k uses 2,500 point forces in tournaments I believe. I may be wrong. Haven't played that since discovering Warlord lol. In any even tI do know people who have spent 2-3 thousand dollars on just 2 or 3 armies for that game and still are missing things they'd like to have. Joshua GW 40K events are more like 1,500 to 1,750 points, I think. Warhammer Fantasy Battle (WFB) events are usually 2000 points at GW events or 2,250 points at Indy GTs. I don't think 1000 points of a GW Fantasy army and 1000 points of Warlord troops would be an Apples/Apples comparison anyway. (And comparing 40K to Warlord is completely pointless. Like comparing Oranges to Bowling Balls.) Games Workshop's WFB point scale is very coarse compared to Warlord. For instance: Goblins with bows are 21 points in Warlord; 4 points in WFB Orcs with Spears are 14 points in Warlord; 6 points in WFB Warlord's point scale is more refined and does a better job of numerically representing the model's capability relative to all other Warlord models. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaeris Posted May 26, 2010 Share Posted May 26, 2010 Interesting info. It would be really interesting to see the numbers for 1000 pt armies for other games as a comparison. Wouldn't really be relevant for some games. GW's Warhammer 40k uses 2,500 point forces in tournaments I believe. I may be wrong. Haven't played that since discovering Warlord lol. In any even tI do know people who have spent 2-3 thousand dollars on just 2 or 3 armies for that game and still are missing things they'd like to have. Joshua GW 40K events are more like 1,500 to 1,750 points, I think. Warhammer Fantasy Battle (WFB) events are usually 2000 points at GW events or 2,250 points at Indy GTs. I don't think 1000 points of a GW Fantasy army and 1000 points of Warlord troops would be an Apples/Apples comparison anyway. (And comparing 40K to Warlord is completely pointless. Like comparing Oranges to Bowling Balls.) Games Workshop's WFB point scale is very coarse compared to Warlord. For instance: Goblins with bows are 21 points in Warlord; 4 points in WFB Orcs with Spears are 14 points in Warlord; 6 points in WFB Warlord's point scale is more refined and does a better job of numerically representing the model's capability relative to all other Warlord models. Yep, every one I've ran was with those point requirements. Course that was years ago and the format may have changed (I've been out of table-top wargaming for a few years). As far as the point system goes I don't agree that WFB's is "coarse". It is just set up to do a different thing which, I agree, isn't comparable to Warlord. WFB is not a skirmish game. It is a full army on the field clashing with another like-sized force. Thus the points system reflects being able to put a large quantity of troops on the table. Heck WFB is not meant for a 4X4 table like Warlord either. It is meant for a 4X6 or 4X8. If you wanted to compare Warlord to a GW product it'd be more appropriate to use Mordheim or Necromunda. Those two games are more skirmish related, though they typically field less models per side than a typical Warlord list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisler Posted May 26, 2010 Share Posted May 26, 2010 Its perfectly reasonable to compare the initial cost outlay for two different game systems. Comparing what it takes to get started in Warlord and what it takes to get started in a GW game is still an apples to apples comparison in that respect. I want to know how much I can spend to actually play the game at a reasonable level if that's a 1000 point army in Warlord for $150 or a 2000 point army in GW Warhammer for $600 that's the information I need to know if I want to play. That cost should also reflect the materials I need such as rulebooks, faction books and any special dice or templates that are required to play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ktyler09 Posted May 26, 2010 Share Posted May 26, 2010 Well starting costs for me was minimal... I went to ReaperCon with oh about 7lbs of GW pewter (that I bought back in the late 90's) and ended up with 2 full armies for Warlord :) And purusing the bits bins was an adventure in itself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HANZO Posted June 6, 2010 Share Posted June 6, 2010 And then again. that is how much it cost to play with 1000 points. Around here we pay a lot of skirmishes with 500 points. Not every one plays with 1000 or even 500 for that matter. Some games really break down at low point because of varying cost of some troops. I find that warlord is pretty balanced and totally playable at all different level. We even thought about trying a royal rumble with just warlords in an arena with one or two body guards and gear. Or maybe any leader could work as long as all the points are even. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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