Enchantra Posted October 18, 2003 Share Posted October 18, 2003 OK, I know everyone says to seal a mini with matte sealant. I even do it myself, after putting a coat of gloss on. Now gloss sealant provides a thicker protective coating under the matte sealant.. So why do you use matte sealant if the gloss seals better overall?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warlordgarou Posted October 18, 2003 Share Posted October 18, 2003 Many people dislike the shiny look that typically accompanies gloss sealants. It's a little hard to imagine cammo-covered soldiers when they gleam. ;) Matte doesn't have that - so you get a more "realistic" look, but at the cost of protection. For armor (CAV, battlesuits, etc), I like the gloss, unless I am going for a more realistic look - then it's gloss followed by matte. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TKD Posted October 18, 2003 Share Posted October 18, 2003 I do not like shiny figures. Gloss makes them glossy, and I dislike that. I want them to look like how I painted them - the dullcote is there to protect my paint job, not gloss it up. I'll gloss up the parts I want glossy. FWIW, I use either a gloss or a non-matte matte (Armory, ahem) as my first coat, then I hit it will dullcote to matte it. That gets me the protective value of gloss and the matte quality I like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hells_Clown Posted October 18, 2003 Share Posted October 18, 2003 The shine, as others have said before. But I do but a gloss coat over it first (I've started using Future to do this). The initial gloss coat gives it that superior protection, the matte layer gives it a more natural look. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Trapspringer Posted October 18, 2003 Share Posted October 18, 2003 I hate gloss but I'm not too crazy about dead flat either, I tend to go the gloss then flat way others have posted here but I like to give them a light 'dusting' with semi-gloss afterward to give back a lil 'sparkle'. And on female figures I like to hit the hair with a lil semigloss outta the bottle. Totally flat looks dull and lifeless to me, but gloss is just too much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coogle Posted October 18, 2003 Share Posted October 18, 2003 Yep what they said, and I find if I want glossy bits then I use a bit of ink extendender or just an ink and that usually adds a bit of semi-gloss to bits. Also seeing as I photograph everything with a digital camera, it hads a little gloss in the pictures so I like to reduce it where possible. :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusoe the Painter Posted October 18, 2003 Share Posted October 18, 2003 Actually, Dull Cote is darn durable. I've sealed figs with JUST dullcote, dropped them on concrete ( by accident ) and have had them emerge unharmed. Gloss sealers can be brittle, be forewarned! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haldir Posted October 19, 2003 Share Posted October 19, 2003 I'll concur what everyone has said glossy just doesn't look right. Gloss has it's place but glossy clothes or glossy skin, not for me Randy M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orchid_Noir Posted October 19, 2003 Share Posted October 19, 2003 :p warning: snotty, spoiled brat comments to follow :p I use matte when I think it will look good to me, I use satin when I think it will look good to me, and I use high gloss when I like, and I frenquently use some of this and that and the other once I have sealed the colors. Alot of the dullcoat phenomena/trend/whatever it web sharing IMO, it does photo/scan better and easier. :D resume normal viewing, opinionated moment over :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hells_Clown Posted October 19, 2003 Share Posted October 19, 2003 Actually, Dull Cote is darn durable. I've sealed figs with JUST dullcote, dropped them on concrete ( by accident ) and have had them emerge unharmed. Gloss sealers can be brittle, be forewarned! How many coates did you spray on and how long did you wait before spraying the next one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Devalis Posted October 19, 2003 Share Posted October 19, 2003 Alrighty, one thing that I do with my BAttletech and CAV minis is to hit them with a gloss coat (to protect them better) then once that dries, I hit then with a layer of MAtte to take away the shine. Part of the reason I do that is in order to maintain the illusion of scale. Usually a figure, whether a mech or the figure I am working on atm, will simply not appear that shiny in any type of scale. So, as I said, one coat of gloss, one (sometimes two) coats of matte. Also, whenever I make scenery, I paint the rocks as well. Not for any particular reason, but simply to maintain an illusion of scale. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AusMike Posted October 19, 2003 Share Posted October 19, 2003 I have always used spray satin to seal my figures, it doesn't have the shine that make gloss look un-natural, and also does not dull metallics that I find matt sealers do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokingwreckage Posted October 20, 2003 Share Posted October 20, 2003 Gloss can really hide a subtle paintjob. If you shade reasonable well, you dont want it hiding. And theoretically gloss sould be more difficult to photograph, reflecting flash etc and messing up the shading still further. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whizard Hlavaz Posted October 20, 2003 Share Posted October 20, 2003 Actually, Dull Cote is darn durable. I've sealed figs with JUST dullcote, dropped them on concrete ( by accident ) and have had them emerge unharmed. I've found this to be true as well. Dullcote is very durable. That said, I'll admit to coating (or is it coting...?) my figures a number of times during painting. A fair number, actually. OK... A lot. Each time I finish an area (say the face, or the legs, or what-have-you), I spritz the fig. So, by the time I'm finished, the model has been coated (coted) probably at least a dozen times. Then I do a finishing coat (cote -- sick of the joke, yet? :D ), allow that to dry for 24 hours, and then do another coat (ok, ok -- I'll quit!) In the end, the figure winds up being quite well protected (ooo... they've encased him in carbonite. He should be quite well protected... If he survived the freezing process.) I have to agree with SmokingWreckage that gloss can ruin a subtle paint job. The shine obscures painstaking details, especially those only a bristle or two in width... say streaks of highlight in an NMM job). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digital M@ Posted October 20, 2003 Share Posted October 20, 2003 Actually, Dull Cote is darn durable. I've sealed figs with JUST dullcote, dropped them on concrete ( by accident ) and have had them emerge unharmed. I've found this to be true as well. Dullcote is very durable. That said, I'll admit to coating (or is it coting...?) my figures a number of times during painting. A fair number, actually. OK... A lot. Each time I finish an area (say the face, or the legs, or what-have-you), I spritz the fig. So, by the time I'm finished, the model has been coated (coted) probably at least a dozen times. Then I do a finishing coat (cote -- sick of the joke, yet? :D ), allow that to dry for 24 hours, and then do another coat (ok, ok -- I'll quit!) In the end, the figure winds up being quite well protected (ooo... they've encased him in carbonite. He should be quite well protected... If he survived the freezing process.) This is exactly what I do. Many coats adorn a finished product. I am not saying you could toss one up in the air a whack it with an aluminum bat and the paint wouldn't be mared, but it is pretty tough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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