Lawgiver Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 Do Fearless models have to make a discipline check when: Breaking B2B? - I assume yes, it just doesn't get the shaken token if it fails. When engaging a nauseating model? I assume the same is true Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdripley Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 1. Correct, Fearless would negate the Shaken model state, but would not allow a model failing a discipline roll to break b2b to actually break b2b. 2. Correct also. Fearless actually does nothing against the Nauseating SA, as that SA doesn't give the Shaken effect, which is what Fearless prevents. Fearless and Discipline Checks is always a bit of a mind bend. I think it's a symptom suffered by the typical wargamer who plays 2 or 3 different wargames. We tend to think of Fearless as "passes all discipline checks" when in reality that's just not the case. I know I've made that assumption on more than one occasion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gus Landt Posted December 9, 2010 Share Posted December 9, 2010 I had looked at making Fearless auto-pass all DIS checks, but it raised the point cost for that SA above what I wanted for a number of Fearless models. I'll admit I am still unsure if I did the right thing... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdripley Posted December 9, 2010 Share Posted December 9, 2010 I think it's fine. There are enough Fearless models out there that having Fearless models auto pass Dis checks would have been a huge bummer for the models that really rely on models failing DIS to survive. Nauseate models, etc.. Often those are rough and tumble types offensively, but may not have the goods defensively. It does create an awkward rules-to-brain situation, but once you get your head around it it's simple enough. Also, immunity to Shaken is about as solid as it comes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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