Divine Restoration Doctrine (Crusaders)

[herzogbrian]

The Rule: All spells costing 2 or more points, cast from the Restore Tome, cost one less SP. Spells that are 0 or 1 maintain the same cost (2d ed core p 62)

 

Question: Does this mean that a 3/x caster can cast a 4 pt spell like Touch of the Gods, because the spell now costs only 3 pts to cast with this doctrine? Or are they still limited to 3 pt spells, only now paying 2 pts to cast them?

[Stubbdog]

Your second answer is correct. It does not allow them access to spells that they normally would not have access to, it simply lets them cast what they do have access to for cheaper.

[jdripley]

Think of it this way: the text of the rule says that spells "cast" from the restore tome are reduced in price accordint to yatta yatta etc etc..

 

In order to cast it, you must be capable of it. So 3/x casters are only capable of casting spells costing 3 or less. At the time that the spell is actually cast, you get the discount. As opposed to just reducing all 3+ SP spells in the tome by 1, which would cause confusion.

[herzogbrian]

The problem is in the wording of casting a spell (Core left col, p34, 1st para) RULE: "The data card lists Spell Points as X/Y. The first number (X) is the maximum number of Spell Points that the Spellcaster may spend on any one spell."

 

With the Doctrine in play the 4pt spell only costs the caster 3 pts (ie they SPEND 3 pts to cast it)...which would BE the maximum that they are allowed to cast and so they could, in fact, cast the normally 4pt spell.

 

Now if the casting rule was "max # of SP that a spell costs", then that would be another matter. This may be another 'that is not what Gus meant momments', but based on reading what is written and not what was intended (or normally played in TX), but I don't know. Which is why I asked.

[pralix]

Your second answer is correct. It does not allow them access to spells that they normally would not have access to, it simply lets them cast what they do have access to for cheaper.

But, if I understand correctly (which may, or may not, be the case ) the only reason they would not have access to a spell is because of the spell point cost. If that spell point cost gets lowered, why can't they have access? There aren't any levels as such, are there?