haldir Posted January 29, 2011 Share Posted January 29, 2011 Picked up a couple of Skaven singles out of the Island of Blood (Skaven will always hold a place in my heart, what can I say ). Anyways, since I think the last GW mini I bought was either a metal one or waaay back when D&D was 2nd edition I was curious can you use regular modeling glue to assemble these? I'd like to use Tamiya regular liquid cement for them but I wasn't sure due to GW has a glue & almost every person I've seen assembling GW stuff uses that. thanks RM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ixminis Posted January 29, 2011 Share Posted January 29, 2011 Hey Randy, the Tamiya will work. Just to "feel safe" Find yourself a few pieces of sprue without numbering or lettering and glue 'em together with the Tamiya and observe the strength of the bond yourself to be sure it's to your satisfaction, eh? That Tamiya is stinky stuff isn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jubilee Posted January 29, 2011 Share Posted January 29, 2011 My husband has assembled at least half a dozen armies since I met him and he's always used plastic cement for the plastic stuff - smells awful, but holds great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruunwald Posted January 29, 2011 Share Posted January 29, 2011 I assemble the odd GW plastic now and again, and have no problem using Loctite, Gorilla super, P3, or similar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corlock Striker Posted January 29, 2011 Share Posted January 29, 2011 I'd like to use Tamiya regular liquid cement for them but I wasn't sure due to GW has a glue & almost every person I've seen assembling GW stuff uses that. That's because the existence of other manufacturors products is a bigger secret at GW than the location of the Black Library within the webway. Most of those people use the GW glue because they don't know that other products, like Zap a Gap or Taimiya Plastic Glue exists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haldir Posted January 29, 2011 Author Share Posted January 29, 2011 That's because the existence of other manufacturors products is a bigger secret at GW than the location of the Black Library within the webway. Most of those people use the GW glue because they don't know that other products, like Zap a Gap or Taimiya Plastic Glue exists. Sooooo true!! Oh wait you mean there are other paint brushes out there that I can use??? Cool thanks for the info guys & gals. I wasn't sure if GW's plastic was the sort that you couldn't use regular modeling glue. I guess I've used Tamiya's stuff for so long that the smell doesn't bother me much. RM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
l33t ninj4 Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 It's an okay glue, but I use Testers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lars Porsenna Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 I also use testors liquid, but also Plastruct plastic weld if I need the join to bond right now... Damon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twjolson Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 Yea, I also use Testors glue. I can't testify that it's the strongest, I don't know for sure. But I do like how it more or less melts the plastic together, rather than just glues them. I would be inclined to say that creates a stronger bond. Especially when compared to sheering a super glue bond. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ixminis Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 Since Haldir asked if Tamiya worked, I kept it to that topic. However, now that we're on the topic of which is best... I've tested a few readily available plastic cements. "Best" depends on the individual purchaser, but the criteria that I suspect most will consider are: Evaporation time Initial bond time Complete bond time Versatility (how many plastics it can bond) Toxicity/Active Ingredients The glues I've purchased and tested include (in alphabetical order) Plastruct Bondene, Plastruct Plastic Weld, Tamiya Cement, Tenax-7R (space age plastic welder), Testor's Model Master (black label), Testor's Plastic Cement (the clear liquid in a bottle w/a brush), Testor's Plastic Cement (red label, but similar container and needle applicator to the black label). Plastruct Bondene -> quick, 5-10 seconds, same type to same type in same bond, high (dichloromethane) Plastruct Plastic Weld -> quick, 15-20 seconds, different plastic types in same bond, high (MEK: Methyl Ethyl Ketone) Tamiya Cement - quick, 5-10 seconds, untested & not on label, high (butyl acetate) Tenax-7R - quick, 5-10 seconds, untested & not on label, high (I believe it to be MEK: Methyl Ethyl Ketone) Testors Model Master (black label) - slow, 15-20 seconds, high (Xylene) Testors Plastic Cement (liquid brush) quick, 15-20 seconds, high (Acetates and MEK: Methyl Ethyl Ketone) Testors Plastic Cement (red label) slow, 15-20 seconds, high (Xylene) For some reason I though there was a difference b/w the red and black label testors, but am not quickly seeing it. I am also going to eventually purchase the Micro-mark MEK liquid cement sometime, but I really have enough for now. The only thing that'd change that is if I leave any of the liquids open & they evaporate... ugh... One more criteria: Strength of bond - and well, I don't have anything that'll really measure this, so I've left it out of the information I've posted. I've also got a new test that not all will be able to perform. It's the SST test. That is, the Starship Troopers the Miniatures Game test. Testors black and red label absolutely don't bond well with SST plastics, the rest seem to get the job done. Sooo, if you've got SST miniatures - try using those to do your tests. I'm also going to see how well the MEK stuff works with my Alkemy figures as I believe testors acted funny/lacking with them as well. Anyway -> er -> that's all! Regards, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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