Hells_Clown Posted October 31, 2003 Share Posted October 31, 2003 Ok Ms Haley, fess up. How did you paint that sword? I've been workig on a mini that I want to have a black sword and couldn't figure out how to make it work. :oo: *Gets ready to take notes...* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paintrix Posted October 31, 2003 Share Posted October 31, 2003 Well, it's actually dark blue with sky blue highlights, and the armor is a very warm grey. I think the camera wanted to balance the tones out. I really like using blues or browns to keep black from looking stark grey, as Anne's noted in the hair thread. (I also used Blue Black and Vallejo French Mirage Blue on her hair for the same reason.) I started with Blue Black over a black basecoat, highlighted with...ugh, can't remember, one of Reaper's light blues, glazed that with Blue Black to make it fade into the background, repeated the light blue highlighting in a thinner line, then added a bit of white at the very edges and tip of the blade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hells_Clown Posted October 31, 2003 Author Share Posted October 31, 2003 Thanks for the tip. I should have known not to use pure black. I know better than that. I will have to play with the technique and see what works. Oh and anytime you wanna dispense advice on how I can suck less as a mini painter, feel free. Dispense away. Please. Frequently. Really. It's ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paintrix Posted October 31, 2003 Share Posted October 31, 2003 Hey, just ask! :) Usually by the time I see a question for which I have an answer, Ary or Whiz or one of the other posters has answered it as well as I could. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whizard Hlavaz Posted October 31, 2003 Share Posted October 31, 2003 Hey, just ask! :) Usually by the time I see a question for which I have an answer, Ary or Whiz or one of the other posters has answered it as well as I could. Ah, that's simply because I'm a blabber-mouth...or... have blabber-fingers, as it were.... Just the same, I'd never think to speak for you, Jen. Your Kung-Fu is much greater than my own. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kheprera Posted October 31, 2003 Share Posted October 31, 2003 Hey, just ask! :) Usually by the time I see a question for which I have an answer, Ary or Whiz or one of the other posters has answered it as well as I could. I have answers up the wazoo, but I still can't get a mini finished. Go fig. :p I've actually spent the better part of the past year and a half reading just about every web site I could find on painting techniques (including Jen's, which is in my faves). Basically I'm just spewing what I've assimilated from reading all these sites and from previous knowledge I've gained from my art. If anyone had asked me about any of this three years ago, however, I would have stared blankly in confusion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hells_Clown Posted November 1, 2003 Author Share Posted November 1, 2003 Hey, just ask! :) Usually by the time I see a question for which I have an answer, Ary or Whiz or one of the other posters has answered it as well as I could. mmmmk, Wouldja come to my house n teach me how ta paint? Wouldja, huh, huh, huh?? :D One problem I have is I see a good paint job I want to emulate and I base coat then I stop and think, "ok, what now?" Fer instance, I'm painting up the Wraith Sgt. I saw Mr Glocka's interpretation and though, "veeeeeddy intedestink!" cuz I often think in strange accents dontch know, and thought I'd like to maybe paint mine sorta kinda like you painted that paladine that floored me so much. Well, ok, I painted the whole fig (cept the skull) Vallejo Gray-Black (or Black-Gray, I forget which order they go) and got ready to start in on the highlights and...just...stopped in me tracks. Didn't know where to begin. Brain stopped functioning. Remembered I'm a talentless hack paint slinger. Then moved on to base coat some skeletons cuz that's purty brainless ya see. Sooooooooo, what's the secret? Impart me with your wizdom. Can I have some of your DNA so I can have it extracted and injected into my system so I to can use the Force? Now that you know I'm totally insane, answer away! :p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whizard Hlavaz Posted November 1, 2003 Share Posted November 1, 2003 Remembered I'm a talentless hack paint slinger. Hey, now!!! There will be none of that self-deprecation! How many times do we have to tell people? Aryanun would you BONK! him, please!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kheprera Posted November 1, 2003 Share Posted November 1, 2003 Whiz, if I BONK!ed everyone who said that I'd never get anything else done. :p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whizard Hlavaz Posted November 1, 2003 Share Posted November 1, 2003 Whiz, if I BONK!ed everyone who said that I'd never get anything else done. :p All right. I'll grant you... :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hells_Clown Posted November 1, 2003 Author Share Posted November 1, 2003 If I didn't depreciate myself me and my ego would not be able to fit into this forum. It's for the best. Really. I wouldn't lie about something like this. Besides, how many Golden Demons, Slayer Swords and all-those-other-awards-I-ain't-never-heard-of has The Haley won? Right. How many people have torn out their own eyes and ran screaming due to the ineptitude displayed by one of my "creations"? Well, none. But that's not the point! What is the point? Um, something about painting a black sword I think... I'm gonna go gorge myself on left over Halloween candy. :p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paintrix Posted November 1, 2003 Share Posted November 1, 2003 Well, we'll let you be self-deprecating, then. :) First: awards can mean very little. There are multiple Demon winners (not talking about any of my friends or idols, of course!) who will never try out a new technique or play around with paint with the willingness of most people on this board. There will be, every once in a while, some painter nobody's ever heard of, whose buddies post a picture somewhere that makes my mind boggle. Second: while Anne, Lili, me, and other painters joke about bottling our saliva and selling it as a 'magic painting aid', my husband is proof positive that exposure to our DNA does not confer magic painting ability. :laugh: Third: where do you live? I teach painting in a few places around Chicago, on request when I'm visiting Anne at Reaper, and at GenCon, Origins, and a few random cons. Fourth: that's a gorgeous job on the Sgt, isn't it? The Glockas do amazing work. Really, I think the key is just to study and analyze that picture. Since he's used relatively few colors for highlighting, it is not as difficult as interpreting some blends; it looks to me like four greys maximum from black-grey to a very light grey for the final touches on the collar rim and sword edge, for example. Look at where a light or dark streak is placed, and duplicate it on your own miniature. He seems to be using fairly thin smooth paint as well. Don't let yourself be intimidated by the final result, but approach one section at a time; this should make it easier. There is a certain way of 'looking', as I think of it, that is needed to interpret paint jobs. A large part of it is just experience with mini painting, and it can be helped greatly by traditional art instruction. Believe me, it will come in time. Sometimes it requires looking at a pic for ages before it clicks (as when I've tried to figure out, say, what a Confrontation painter has done on a mini). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hells_Clown Posted November 2, 2003 Author Share Posted November 2, 2003 Third: where do you live? I teach painting in a few places around Chicago, on request when I'm visiting Anne at Reaper, and at GenCon, Origins, and a few random cons. I live not too far away from Reaper HQ (by Texas standards), in Houston. Far enough to make a little jaunt to visit the Reap peeps unlikely, but not out o the question if something special were to come up, like a convergeance of painting gurus. :O So I'll keep staring at the lovlies until my eyes stop bleeding and wait for the *click*. The *snap* that was my sanity went off a looooooong time ago. :p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kheprera Posted November 2, 2003 Share Posted November 2, 2003 The look for a thread called ReaperCon in General Discussion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mo Sinister Posted November 3, 2003 Share Posted November 3, 2003 I've actually spent the better part of the past year and a half reading just about every web site I could find on painting techniques (including Jen's, which is in my faves). Basically I'm just spewing what I've assimilated from reading all these sites and from previous knowledge I've gained from my art. Ok, I'm blind. Can someone point me in the direction of Ms. Haley's personal Web space? I'd like to see and read anything she has to offer. ~Mo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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