Bumble_B Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 BumbleB as for that article you quoted that is GW screwing us at BoLS because American media laws prevent them from suing us for talking about their product. They hate us so much because we make their direct marketing and preview market irrelevant. Trust me when I say this has nothing to do with sales and everything to do with us. /Begin Rant I believe you. My problem seems to be the fact that when there is something that GW feels is wrong or the local stores feels is wrong, they don't look at the problem and say "OK how can we fix this, and make it a win, win for everyone?" they seem to go, "OK, what can we take away to fix this?". I personally am in an odd position as a gamer, and I can't imagine I am that far off then some other people. Small town USA. My gaming community consists of mainly military playing 40k and just recently the small group that was playing WHFB in their garages and houses, have come out and played a few games at my LGS. I've wanted to get into a miniature game for a long time. I love painting. GW products have always scared me away, because of the costs and the players. I can't drop 500 to get started on a game I might not enjoy. Or 200 for that matter. I see 40K players argue more than smile while playing. It's just not an environment I want to be a part of. PP products don't exist in my community unfortunately. Few people that do play must be hiding underground and the store has only carried a few things (usually just doubling up on the oddball things I order). Forget about the other great games that could be out there. Malifaux, Warlord, Infinity, Kings of War, whatever your poison. Getting a game like WarmaHordes going is hard enough let alone something noone has heard of. I recently did some work for the LGS and was given about 200 dollars of WHFB products in payment. Tomb Kings. Enough for a good foundation .. but still not enough to play. I start looking at the things I need. 18 dollars for this guy, 18 dollars for another guy (both single minis), 33 dollars for this group, ... my heart just sinks. I have been GIVEN WHFB products and I still don't want to make more of an investment. I don't want to sink money into a game that the company keeps doing what GW is doing. Where I have to keep purchasing the same models over and over again because they are holding one stinking weapon difference. I don't want to play a game because I have made an "investment" into it and that's my only choice. PP products are just as expensive as GW products, but the way they go about it is different. You can customize. You don't have to purchase 5 boxes of the same models just to have someone holding a spear instead of a mace. The starters are cheaper. The rules are cheaper. The product is same high quality and the company listens to the players. And most importantly, it might be 100 miles away from me, but the players I see are having FUN!! Games should be fun. Should have great fluff. Should be entertaining and draw people in with good costs and the enjoyment of others. PP has everything going for them but cost. They are the lesser of two evils. If I had to pick one, I would back PP vs GW any day of the weak just because of the company. I hope over time enough other gamers do the same that maybe GW will take look at themselves and change. /End Rant And as a side note, I wish Reaper was a true gaming company. I love the company more than any other, because of their prices and attitude. If they had a game as popular as 40K and could still remain the same as far as a company, well ... that's my dream honestly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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