agooga Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 I'm new to this craft, so when I went into the art store and bought some supplies (almost at random) I threw a bottle of LGS into my basket thinking it was a paint. Got home and checked it out and thought it was too thick to be paint and it sat on my shelf for a few months until I started looking at this forum. It appears it's used as a filler, but it seems to have more uses than that. If you don't mind, I'd love to hear how everyone has used it in it's various ways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dargrin Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 It is most likely used like zap a gap. If you have two pieces that don't quite fit together and it is too tight of a spot to put in straight Green Stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikem91 Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 Liquid green stuff is a liquid form of green stuff. It's more useful to come the other direction though. Green stuff and grey stuff are two kinds of epoxy modelling puttys. Green stuff's components are blue and yellow; grey stuff's are black and white. You'll mix the parts until they become green or grey and then use. As modelling puttys, they're generally used to fill gaps, create new parts of minis or to create a mini wholesale. Liquid green stuff is a newish product designed to be put on with a brush -- probably easier to fill gaps with liquid green stuff rather than green stuff. The virtues of green versus grey stuff is a whole 'nother topic... http://theminiaturespage.com/boards/msg.mv?id=223700 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agooga Posted January 12, 2012 Author Share Posted January 12, 2012 Awesome. I just thought that when people were referring to "green stuff" that they were talking about the liquid stuff, and it seemed outlandish that they could do some of the things they were saying with it-- this makes more sense! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haldir Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 Been wanting to try this but every time the closest Hobbytown that I go too never has it in stock. I may just end up ordering it online. I've heard there are other stuff that is equal to it & you get allot more but figure eh let see what we got with this product. I've heard Squadron's Green Putty is similar but without the smell of Squadie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lars Porsenna Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Some more detail. The label "Liquid Green Stuff" is misleading. This stuff is NOT the same as "Green Stuff" epoxy putty. It is in fact simply paint with a filler added. It doesn't have any real adhesive properties by itself, so should not be used as a substitute for Epoxy, Epoxy Putty, or superglue. Nor does it have the strength for sculpting when dry. But what it is meant for is for filling small gaps, holes, and seams. While wet it can be "feathered" into the mini using a damp brush. When dry it can be sanded, or alternatively it can be smoothed using rubbing alcohol. One of my modeling projects was a 1/35 BT-7 tank. It had major gaps between the mantlet (the part that protects the gun barrel and housing) and the rest of the turret. I filled it with LGS, and after dry smoothed it with a Q-tip soaked in alcohol. The gap in the pieces dissappeared after a coat of primer. GW takes a lot of heat for what it does, sometimes deservedly, sometimes not. But IMHO LGS is a good product, and should be in the tool box of any minis painter. Damon. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agooga Posted January 14, 2012 Author Share Posted January 14, 2012 Excellent, Lars. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angorak Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 For me the most useful aspect of LGS is the ability to fill in rough parts of a casting using it and a wet brush. Turns cloaks and robes that would require a fair bit of filing or sanding into smooth surface easily. Vallejo makes a comparable product in thier water-soluble plastic putty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MamaGeek Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 I just picked up a bottle myself. I haven't tried it yet, but with all the good reviews I've read, I anticipate that it will be pretty useful. I often run into dings, scratches, and other marks that I can't sand smooth, and can't fill in with primer alone. This seems like just the product I need! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King of Daveness Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 I use grey/yellow milliput instead, as it thins down with water and can be brushed on. No need for thinners. Unlike lgs, you can thin it down to the consistency you require. Its also much cheaper, a neutral color and sets really hard. A few layers of milliput juice over robes and large exposed skin makes a silky surface to paint on. If your just filling surface fine bubbles, try mixing industrial talc (not perfumed) into acrylic heavy structure gel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herzogbrian Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 Any issues with Liquid Green Stuff drying out in the bottle once opened...or is it to new a product to have much issue with this yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gailbraithe Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 I bought a bottle about three months ago and have only made limited use of it. I last used it a day ago and noticed that the liquid was drying out. I suspect most of the bottle will go to waste, which is a shame, but someone who made more use of it than I do might find they use the whole thing before it becomes too dry to be of use. I don't use it as a substitute for glue, but I have found that it is really excellent -- way better than actual green stuff -- for filling in small gaps and creating smooth transitions between conversion parts. Most recently i used it on my Fairy to make the connection of the wings to the torso look more natural. Since the wings were right on the borderline of what I consider too small to pin I only used glue to hold them in. I'm hoping the liquid green stuff will increase the lifetime of the glue bond. Being able to apply it with a brush makes it a huge improvement over greenstuff, and it can easily be smoothed out with a wet brush. I've also used it to paint squad markings on some Space Marine shoulder pads and to add hair to a bald miniature. It has a lot of potential for doing quick modifications to footsoldier models that you want to have some differentiation on -- you can add a mustache to anyone, in any style! In like one brush stroke! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabberwocky Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 I picked this up this week and gave it a go last night. Honestly, I was a bit let down. Perhaps I got a bad batch or wasn't using it correctly or wasn't patient enough with my application. I was using it to fill in some detail on some RBG zombies and used it straight from the pot. It was nice that I could "paint" it on, but as it dried, the little imperfections began to appear again. I applied it several times and the defects filled in somewhat, but I guess I was hoping for one or two passes to get this filled in. These weren't particularly deep areas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wumby Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 I picked this up this week and gave it a go last night. Honestly, I was a bit let down. Perhaps I got a bad batch or wasn't using it correctly or wasn't patient enough with my application. I was using it to fill in some detail on some RBG zombies and used it straight from the pot. It was nice that I could "paint" it on, but as it dried, the little imperfections began to appear again. I applied it several times and the defects filled in somewhat, but I guess I was hoping for one or two passes to get this filled in. These weren't particularly deep areas. That's what I'm suffering from. I've attempted to fill the little pits a couple of times, but they show back up when it dries. I've thinned it with water and it just tints the area green. My last attempt was to sloppily place it on there are see what comes. I'm thinking of ditching the LGS and go for the milliput wash technique. Before I give up, I'm gonna give the q-tip soaked in alcohol a try, as suggested by Damon above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MamaGeek Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 I just tried out the product for the first time. I had to use real green stuff for the wider gaps, but for tiny creases, and smoothing the edges of the green stuff gap fill, the liquid green stuff was perfect. It was really just what I have been needing for a long time. It saved me a lot of frustration. It does dry pretty fast, though, and being in a GW bottle didn't help (the usual drying around the cap was in evidence). It clumped up on my brush, so I had to clean it much more often than with straight painting, but it still is a great product that served just the purpose I needed it for. Here's what I did with it: http://mamageekminis.com/blog/?p=464 I think the trick is to not just paint it on, but to wet your brush and smooth the area afterwards, and apply some fine-grit sandpaper if necessary when dry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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