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And further, if they bring it in-house, I'm sure they'll learn to do their own metal molds, which should at least help with initial costs for a model.

 

Dunno about that. The fellow I knew who actually did this for a living was a highly skilled machinist who got paid insane amounts of money to do what he did... and he was a freelancer, working for various companies and shuttling to China all the time. I don't even wanna think what it would cost to keep him in Denton.

this in one fo the reasons why the initial statement did not include "produce Bones in Texas". We intend to do this, but cannot guarantee by what time that will be a reality, because there's a lot we don't know, and so much that we don't even know yet what we don't know!

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This has been mentiond a couple of places now, so I'll repeat it here.

 

The Kickstarter is a crazy sucsess. No doubt. Now some folks are concerned that this may become a regular thing. And I have to think that there may be some justification to this fear. I am a huge fan of Reaper, Bones, and the Kickstarter drive. But, I have to admit that it could be damaging to Reaper in the long run if fans begin to refrain from buying minis waiting on the next Reaper Kickstarter.

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That would require a couple things to happen. First, everything that you want would have to be offered in the Kickstarter format. Since you have no way of knowing what the kickstarter will or won't include, how can you plan for that? Second, the Kickstarter projects would have to happen all the time, and with immediate dividends. If you need miniatures for a game, are you really going to want to wait 6-9 months every time to get them? Especially when it comes to the Bones line, which is going to be such a low price-point compared to regular metal lines. Why wait, when you can purchase a model that is out now, for little more than pocket change?

 

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The Kickstarter is a crazy sucsess. No doubt. Now some folks are concerned that this may become a regular thing. And I have to think that there may be some justification to this fear. I am a huge fan of Reaper, Bones, and the Kickstarter drive. But, I have to admit that it could be damaging to Reaper in the long run if fans begin to refrain from buying minis waiting on the next Reaper Kickstarter.

I'd hate to see it become a regular thing for simply producing minis. But for something like this - a "Kick Start" to getting a line up and running to the point where it's self sustaining - that I'd like to see more of.

 

So a Kickstarter to produce a new line of ChronoBones or Plastic CAV game - that I would go for. A Kickstarter to add more minis to the DHL line, or another one for the DHL Bones line - that's treading down the wrong path IMO.

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Don't get me wrong. I lend towards agreeing with you.

 

I think a very large class of Reaper clientel falls under the D&D gamer and DM looking for heroes and monsters. My experience has been that haveing the perfect model is always perfered, but it's not a requirement. Most of my players like having the perfect model but really don't mind fighting a paint bottle... So it is possible that you would get buyers that only purchase during a kickstarter. Which may actually be a brand new market? Maybe.. It could be that the kickstarter will have very little impact on their current sales and that the backers are mostly new clientel, but I have a hard time thinking that.

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But, I have to admit that it could be damaging to Reaper in the long run if fans begin to refrain from buying minis waiting on the next Reaper Kickstarter.

 

Personally, I wouldn't be at all upset if they did this on an annual basis, but I think any claims about what Kickstarters would do to their regular sales the rest of the year is highly conjectural. The Reaper folks will have actual data to look at. Given how carefully considered their Kickstarter stretch goals have been, I'm pretty sure that they'll do their due diligence and do it only if the extra sales triggered by the Kickstarter are not offset by loss of sales during the regular year and only if it won't hurt their relationship with the FLGSes.

 

My guess (and it is nothing more than a guess) is that the increased sales due to the Kickstarter being such a good deal and also the psychology behind the plus options (I've upped mine a few times) will not even be close to offset by decreases in spending during the year. For regular, existing customers, it may well be true that the kickstarter pledge will come out of their overall mini budget. However, I suspect that the Kickstarter is bringing in new customers and also bringing lapsed gamers and painters (like me) back to the fold. Whatever I spend on this Kickstarter will be that much more than I spent on miniatures at all last year, so even if I don't buy another one this year, they're still in the black compared to what they would've had from me.

 

Remember, there's a lot of people who never set foot in an FLGS. Heck, a lot of us don't even HAVE an FLGS. I have an FNSLGS (friendly not-so-local gaming store) that takes me over an hour each way when I go there (not to mention, they don't carry Reaper minis). Bringing in new customers, some of whom will probably convert into regular customers, is a good thing, so I'm not sure I agree that it will necessarily be a bad thing for them to do regular kickstarters as long as it's not too frequent.

 

But, again, I think they should look at the actual data and make whatever decision makes sense, which I'm pretty comfortable they will.

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So it is possible that you would get buyers that only purchase during a kickstarter. Which may actually be a brand new market? Maybe.. It could be that the kickstarter will have very little impact on their current sales and that the backers are mostly new clientel, but I have a hard time thinking that.

I would suspect that many of the Kickstarter backers are like me, but I won't even try to define how many "many" means. Anyway, it's very likely that the amount I have pledged towards this project would have eventually gone to Reaper in some manner over the next year. The project simply means they're getting it up front from me, and in return I'll wait patiently for a bunch of minis I would like to have, but likely never would have bought.

 

So it's basically Reaper saying to me "Hey, we know you're going to spend this money with us anyway, here's a little a bribe to get you to fork it over now."

 

I consider that a win-win.

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The Kickstarter is a crazy sucsess. No doubt. Now some folks are concerned that this may become a regular thing. And I have to think that there may be some justification to this fear. I am a huge fan of Reaper, Bones, and the Kickstarter drive. But, I have to admit that it could be damaging to Reaper in the long run if fans begin to refrain from buying minis waiting on the next Reaper Kickstarter.

I'd hate to see it become a regular thing for simply producing minis. But for something like this - a "Kick Start" to getting a line up and running to the point where it's self sustaining - that I'd like to see more of.

 

So a Kickstarter to produce a new line of ChronoBones or Plastic CAV game - that I would go for. A Kickstarter to add more minis to the DHL line, or another one for the DHL Bones line - that's treading down the wrong path IMO.

 

 

Yes! Yes! I concur... Perfecty stated.

 

I am going revel in my box of plastic minis when they come. I will celebrate that I was a benifactor to something so cool as the Dark Haven Bones Kickstarter. Talk of a yearly or quarterly (***shudders***) Kickstarter makes me aprehesive..

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Dark Haven is their biggest line so I have my doubts we'll see Kickstarters for the others. And overwhelming the community can be bad. Notably, everyone and their mother uses Kickstarters in the RPG world nowadays and honestly, I think a lot of them are scams, notably the third party publishers who are just trying to make a quick buck.

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I'm not even going to paint these things. I'm going to toss them all in the air at the same time like confetti, then roll around naked in them on the floor.

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