Completed Bombshell Miniatures Kickstarter

[Heisler]

That's fair but I think the Bombshell line is really meant to be a display line rather than a gaming line so the scale is almost irrelevant.

[MonkeySloth]

I wish that miniature companies would offer more information on the sizes of their miniatures rather than a claim of being "28mm" or such. I've seen so much variation in what is supposedly "28mm" that it hardly means anything anymore. Is that measured to the eyes or to the top of the head, or do you really just mean "somewhere roughly around that; we don't actually care to measure to be sure"? I've seen what were billed as "heroic 28mm" figures that were actually 32mm when measured to the eyes. And even in-line variance can be pretty harsh: Try lining up the Kroid soldiers (AKA "Zombie German Soldiers") sometime next to Sgt. Torrey and General Drake and Aldorf Hinzler, and you might see what I mean.

 

Heroic 28mm is 32mm scale to the top of the head instead of the eyes thus the "heroic" in front (that's what it means). Also part of the confusion is that in Europe they measure to the eyes and in the US we measure to the top of the head so there's automatically a difference based off of who commisioned the sculpt.

 

If you think this is driving you craze try looking into 1/72 scale for plastic models, which is what 28mm is supposed to be (or so I've been told many times, though 1/54 comes up a lot too), and you'll find yourpeice is anywhere from 15mm to about 40mm depending on the company--there's no real consistancy at all.

[ReaperClark]

That's funny, because we [Ed / Reaper] made that phrase/term up and I've actually never heard that definition until now. TMP has that definition but I'm not sure where they got it. But, I refuse to start yet another scale war, so that's all I have to say about that!

 

http://www.reapermini.com/forum/index.php?/topic/2720-warlord-and-dark-heaven-model-scales/

[MonkeySloth]

Huh. Funny. I was told that was how the scales work by a guy who was a freelance sculptor. Never really had a reason to doubt as I figured someone who gets paid to sculpt would know.

[Patrick]

I make these miniatures for a living and sculpt as a freelancer for MANY different companies. So I'm pretty sure the things are gonna line up with your other models - which were probably sculpted by me anyway.

 

To ease everybody's conscience, I will likely post some pics of the sculpts next to a few sample existing models as the project rolls along.

 

Now - I gotta get back to sculpting stuff . . .

[Jordan Peacock]

If you think this is driving you craze try looking into 1/72 scale for plastic models, which is what 28mm is supposed to be (or so I've been told many times, though 1/54 comes up a lot too)

 

I've heard that "true*" 25mm would be 1/72 scale (* measured to top of head rather than to eye level). That is, a 6-foot-tall "average" character would be about 72 inches tall, but if it is represented as a 1-inch-tall figure (from bottom of feet to top of head), it would be close to 25mm tall. So, 72 inches -> 1 inch = 1:72 scale. The "Zombies!!!" miniatures and the figures from the Doom board game (Fantasy Flight Games) fit this scale, according to my measurements.

 

Using the same calculation, 28mm scale (if measured from bottom of feet to top of head) would be very close to 1:64 scale. The Wargames Factory Zombies (see a trend here? I've got quite a zombie horde :D ) would fit under this definition of 28mm scale. However, they also happen to measure almost spot-on 25mm from base of feet to eye level (for the ones standing mostly straight up), meaning that I suppose they could be called "heroic 25mm" scale, too.

 

Most of my Chronoscope and Savage Worlds miniatures, Dust Tactics and the Zombicide miniatures measure about 1.25" or pretty close to 32mm from base of foot to eye level, which I'd classify as "heroic 32mm" scale. (Due to helmets, I haven't been able to get a clear idea of the "average" height from foot to top of head, so I'm not sure what the "true" scale would be, but I estimate that they're pretty close to 1:50 scale -- though they also look pretty good next to 1:48 scale models.)

 

 

To ease everybody's conscience, I will likely post some pics of the sculpts next to a few sample existing models as the project rolls along.

 

 

That would be great! Given all the variance in definition of scales, that's probably the best measure I could hope for. :)

[cmorse]

I wish that miniature companies would offer more information on the sizes of their miniatures rather than a claim of being "28mm" or such. I've seen so much variation in what is supposedly "28mm" that it hardly means anything anymore. Is that measured to the eyes or to the top of the head, or do you really just mean "somewhere roughly around that; we don't actually care to measure to be sure"? I've seen what were billed as "heroic 28mm" figures that were actually 32mm when measured to the eyes. And even in-line variance can be pretty harsh: Try lining up the Kroid soldiers (AKA "Zombie German Soldiers") sometime next to Sgt. Torrey and General Drake and Aldorf Hinzler, and you might see what I mean.

 

Heroic 28mm is 32mm scale to the top of the head instead of the eyes thus the "heroic" in front (that's what it means). Also part of the confusion is that in Europe they measure to the eyes and in the US we measure to the top of the head so there's automatically a difference based off of who commisioned the sculpt.

 

If you think this is driving you craze try looking into 1/72 scale for plastic models, which is what 28mm is supposed to be (or so I've been told many times, though 1/54 comes up a lot too), and you'll find yourpeice is anywhere from 15mm to about 40mm depending on the company--there's no real consistancy at all.

 

1/72 means that 72 inches is scaled to 1 inch. 1/54 means that 54 inches is scaled down to 1 inch. Anyone telling you 1/72 is 28mm has no clue what they are talking about. 1/72 is roughly 22.4mm to the eye on a 6 foot model. 1/54 is roughly 30mm to the eye. 1/58 is closest to 28mm assuming the company making it defines 28mm as a representing the distance to the eyes on a mini that would be 6 feet tall, but since 28mm is just a statement of size rather than an actual scale it can mean whatever the manufacturing company says it means (28mm to the eyes, neck, top of head, waist, knee of a 6 foot person? Entire up to the company that slaps the label on). Expressing scale in mm rather than a proportion is what lead to the mess of scale creep and confusing labels (heroic?) that exists today.

[MonkeySloth]

You say that but no company uses the same scale for 1/72, 1/54, or any other scale. I could post pictures showing stuff all marked 1/72 that works great for 28mm and other that's closer to 15mm. However 1/72 does seam to be the most consistent when getting stuff that feels like it's the right size.

[cmorse]

You'll always be able to find companies that label the wrong scale for marketing purposes. With 1/72 at least you can clearly say if its scaled right or not. There's no caveats about 28mm measured to the eyes, top of head, whether its "heroic" or if the base is or isn't included. Its just correctly labeled 1/72 or it isn't.

[Patrick]

 

We have reached our funding goal of $20,000 in only 60 hours! You guys are fantastic! I am amazed at the enthusiasm and support for our project. We are all very excited here to bring everyone the absolute best possible figures we can create.

 

Read more of our Official Update™ #3

[Patrick]

$25,000 Stretch Goal achieved!

Thank you, Backers! Reaching our funding goal and unlocking our first stretch goal within 5 days is very exciting! You have unlocked The Girl as our first stretch goal reward to be added as an additional Babe reward selection. Now every backer level that has a Babes option as a reward selection will get to include The Girl as one of their choices. But that's not all!

 

 

See our Official Update™ for all the news!

[Inarah]

This just keeps looking better and better. Good to see the greens, thanks.

[ObsidianCrane]

Well I'm in.. already have multiple uses for many of the models thanks to Sedition Wars, Relic Knights and my usual RPG collection. :)

 

Besides girls are always more fun to paint :)

[Nocturne]

Got to be honest, I pledged the second I saw this project, I can see this being another one where I'll be wanting one of everything. Really liking the look of the Atomic Punks, can't wait to see the rest of the stretch goals.

[GregR]

Reaper Bones have destroyed my sense of appropriate price-per-miniature. I haven't bought a single model lately, and on several occasions it was purely based on a vague sense that I was getting suckered on price. This KS looks good enough that it might draw me out... but woe to any "normal" miniatures company that keeps trying to sell me $8 miniatures. Reaper, what have you wrought?!