Girot Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 *EDIT* For carving out the in between spaces - a a dental burr and a Dremel tool or the like would work well, I think. Use Low speed so that friction does not melt the PVC. I tried my 'rotary tool' on a Bones once.... the smell was not pleasant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando_the_Technicoloured Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 From a mould construction point of view I'm guessing we'll get one 'side' with ribs & backbone, and a second side with just ribs which should make taking out the extra material there easier The neck will be harder work 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exwilly Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 The wing bone is looking bulky due to the camera perspective. Wide angle closeups lead to all sorts of weird distortion. I don't think it looks like there any distortions in that photo beyond forced perspective issues. Also the tail bones are just thicker, rather than distorted, because the Spinous Process is pretty much in line with it's size in the concept art. I don't mind the thicker tail, the concept art had it a tad too thin. You traced the tail wrong in the concept art. You seem to be confusing the tip of the woman's staff for the tip of the dragon's tail.Right you are about her staff. Hard to make out that she even has a staff without zooming in. Still to me the tail concept looks more like two disconnected pieces rather than connected in one piece circling around. (Can't add it to my order right now, sadly.)You sure? Try emailing reaper. i think that one thing you pointed out in the last pic is actually the womans weapon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Inner Geek Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 From a mould construction point of view I'm guessing we'll get one 'side' with ribs & backbone, and a second side with just ribs which should make taking out the extra material there easier The neck will be harder work That would be nice, but my bet is each side will be a block with ribs and half of a spine molded onto the outside of the block. If it was possible to mold it as just a spine and ribs on one side, why not do it on both sides? On a side note, where I can get some fluff on this dragon? Everyone seems to know who it is, but I just got one because it looks cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buglips*the*goblin Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 I'm not aware of any fluff for Kaladrax - I just assumed he's famous because he's had a prior incarnation: http://www.reapermini.com/OnlineStore/kaladrax/sku-down/10012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAuldGrump Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 From a mould construction point of view I'm guessing we'll get one 'side' with ribs & backbone, and a second side with just ribs which should make taking out the extra material there easier The neck will be harder work It might be easier to just cut it out and substitute another length of skeletal spine.... Akar Nakhal has neck and tail pieces that can be ordered through The Boneyard, the tail is about $2 and the neck is about $4. Now I want Akar Nakhal as well.... The Auld Grump, addicted to undead dragons - I even have the one by McFarlane toys... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exwilly Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 From a mould construction point of view I'm guessing we'll get one 'side' with ribs & backbone, and a second side with just ribs which should make taking out the extra material there easier The neck will be harder work It might be easier to just cut it out and substitute another length of skeletal spine.... Akar Nakhal has neck and tail pieces that can be ordered through The Boneyard, the tail is about $2 and the neck is about $4. Now I want Akar Nakhal as well.... The Auld Grump, addicted to undead dragons - I even have the one by McFarlane toys... now to find the mcfarlane one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pingo Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 The McFarlane dragon is awesome, Auld Grump. It turns out I did pledge for Kaladrax. Yay! I didn't re-log into the pledge manager, I just dug out my printout of my final list (Of course I printed it out. I'm a mom, remember?). I hadn't noticed the little assistant figure, though. Or herald, or familiar, or necromancer, or whatever she is. This looks like it's going to be a fun couple to paint. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klarg1 Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 The new Kaladrax sculpt looks awesome! Sorry. But the rest of the sculpt is too awesome not to carve out the block-off, and bring it closer to concept. If necessary, the ribs will be moulded, copies produced and their inner surfaces profiled, the entire area carved away, and the new ribs fitted, after any neccesary re-sculpting of the vertebrae's ventral surfaces. Yeah. I think I'm going to have to at least try to hollow out the rib cage. Kind of makes me wish I'd ordered an extra one for experimentation. I don't know much about mould making, but I wonder if the ribs are filled in to make it easier to cast this beast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pally Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 It probably did make it easier since it's in fewer pieces. If it were in many different pieces then I could see them not being filled in. It could also be that the PVC material wouldn't work as well otherwise. Could also be a rush job. It does take a lot of desirability away from the model. Not only will it be nearly impossible (may have to cut all the ribs off just to cut away all the filler) to fix, but even if you do cut away the filler, there's no detail on the opposite side of the ribs. You'd pretty much have to carve it yourself. By the time you've done all that work you may as well have sculpted your own undead dragon from scratch. I may have to simply sell mine and wait for the metal version, and hope it doesn't have "filler ribs". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAuldGrump Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 From a mould construction point of view I'm guessing we'll get one 'side' with ribs & backbone, and a second side with just ribs which should make taking out the extra material there easier The neck will be harder work It might be easier to just cut it out and substitute another length of skeletal spine.... Akar Nakhal has neck and tail pieces that can be ordered through The Boneyard, the tail is about $2 and the neck is about $4. Now I want Akar Nakhal as well.... The Auld Grump, addicted to undead dragons - I even have the one by McFarlane toys... now to find the mcfarlane one The dragon to look for is the Fossil Clan dragon - it goes for about $70(!) on Amazon. I bought mine for $25 when it was remaindered at Toys 'R' Us. Some of the McFarlane Dragons are indeed pretty awesome - fire clan and water clan in particular. Prices range from less than $10 to more than $100, depending on dragon and availability. Some of my favorites are still cheap.... I could all too easily fill the page with pictures, so I'll just say to look them up. But one before I scoot - Water Clan Dragon series 3: A very different take on dragon, but if it is anything like the Lion Fish that it resembles then look out for the poison. The Auld Grump, just found another undead dragon in my collection - I forgot that I had the Grendel undead dragon in resin. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer_Engel Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 Oh! I like the sea dragon. Although, I'd've had to fight the temptation to add a set of tigerfish-style quills. . . . But ironicly the McFarlane undead dragon doesn't do anything for me. Sorry, it Just seems to be trying too hard. It's a bit, well, GW. . . . So, this is bones plastic, right? Can we surgerate on the ribcage to remove the extra bits between the ribs or would that totally destroy the stability of kaladrax? Or his integrity. It's vinyl, so it shouldn't be too difficult. Witness that the model is still mostly notional, and I'm already planning major surgery, with reasonable confidence. Still, we'll see when he gets here. From a mould construction point of view I'm guessing we'll get one 'side' with ribs & backbone, and a second side with just ribs which should make taking out the extra material there easier The neck will be harder work That would be nice, but my bet is each side will be a block with ribs and half of a spine molded onto the outside of the block. If it was possible to mold it as just a spine and ribs on one side, why not do it on both sides? On a side note, where I can get some fluff on this dragon? Everyone seems to know who it is, but I just got one because it looks cool. I would assume the ribcage will be a single block, in order to keep the number of components down. If there were any plans to mould it as two components, then it would have been just as easy to create a hollow ribcage. Hence the fallback plan of duplicating his ribs if it proves too difficult to core out the block. Ironically I feel the sculpt came out near perfectly. The 'filled in' look where his insides are obviously still insides look quite like the concept sketch. While a hollow ribcage would have looked insanely cool I don't think that was ever the idea. I fully intend to take this and run with it. For example: why not freehand the look of rotten internal organs? Or use something that could be applied to that whole region to create a layer of skin ontop of the ribs and guts...? Well. . . . I have to admit to being too taken by the idea of a mummy dragon to pass it up, so when this model goes on sale, a third one will be acquired, and I will be stealing your idea of crackle paint over the ribcage. After any reposing, the rest of the model will get large areas 'skinned' with green stuff, and possibly baked PVA. The big decision is, what sort of mummy? The front runners are either the traditional Egyptian, or an northern ice mummy. In the first case it will probably be mounted on some suitable ruins (coiled round a stele?) And recieve a lot of ritual jewelry - Pectoral, rings on it's horns, and the all-important heart scarab. The ice mummy would be mounted on a suitably icy crag, and probably recieve a generous helping of rime. Opinions, ideas, anyone? (Incidentally, consider this as further evidence against the idea that the Kickstarter will poison Bones at the counter. Four large undead dragons on the way, and plans are already afoot to acquire at least one more. . . .) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankthedm Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 i think that one thing you pointed out in the last pic is actually the womans weapon.Yeah, that is why the red line is running parallel to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankthedm Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 The Auld Grump, addicted to undead dragons - I even have the one by McFarlane toys...Did you know the flame isn't hard to remove? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAuldGrump Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 The Auld Grump, addicted to undead dragons - I even have the one by McFarlane toys...Did you know the flame isn't hard to remove? Yep. Left it on the last time (only time) that I have used it though - I also gave it the Half-Fiend template so it fit - A half fiendish Ravener red dragon..... Better known as 'Gah! RUN!' It was a plot point more than a monster - they were seventh level adventurers - a colossal flaming undead fire breathing dragon was a wee bit beyond them. They were welcome to try though... CR 26....The main point was that the castle that they were seeking was not being attacked, it was being destroyed. They assumed that it was under the control of the campaign's big bad evil guy - but the dragon would have eaten him for lunch and had room for the party as well. It was just moving in to the new made ruins. The critter was not a plot for the, it was a plot for later. The thing could, would, and had destroyed entire towns. The Auld Grump, more honestly, I created the monster because I had the figure.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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