Retail price of upcoming Kickstarter Bones?

[Reaperbryan]

Reaper is a good poker player and their cards are kept close to their chests*, so we'll probably never know how much, the Kickstarter Kaladraxes are putting them in the hole.

 

Just remember the Retail Price is set so that The Factory, Reaper { the importer], the Distributor and the Retailer all see a profit from the sale, so the loss will be less than it at first seems since two middlemen are cut out from the loop.

 

*The 9/11 charity mini was one of the few times I've heard Reaper giving solid numbers.

 

 

I guess I would apply caution to how much Reaper made. Bryan has said that they lost money on more than one of the stretch goals, which likely means any "profit" made on other stretch goals was eaten up. Fortunately they made enough on top of the cost of production and shipping to purchase the plastic injection machine and expand the warehouse to accommodate it. So what ever profit was realized by the kickstarter was poured right back into the company to bring Bones production to the US. For this action I am eternally grateful, as it puts Reaper years in front of some of its competition.

I'm very unlikely to give real numbers, but at this point we're saying that after paying for the new Plastics equipment and the new building, it's a wash. On the other hand, the ability to continue to sell these figures through normal channels means that we will be able to make our business-model-required profits on those sales, and as long as demand remains strong, we'll be fine. The molds are paid for, and the rewards are paid for, so the biggest two expenses of starting something new are gone, and now all we have to do to turn this into a huge positive is keep doing what we've done for 20 years.

[Erifnogard]

I'm very unlikely to give real numbers, but at this point we're saying that after paying for the new Plastics equipment and the new building, it's a wash. On the other hand, the ability to continue to sell these figures through normal channels means that we will be able to make our business-model-required profits on those sales, and as long as demand remains strong, we'll be fine. The molds are paid for, and the rewards are paid for, so the biggest two expenses of starting something new are gone, and now all we have to do to turn this into a huge positive is keep doing what we've done for 20 years.

Really I think the Reaper kickstarter has been just about the purest example of how to plan and execute a campaign. You guys went into it with a clear goal, you did the hard number crunching ahead of time, and you used the Kickstarter as a means to accelerate your business rather than as the business. That last point is what I think a lot of kickstarter campaigns miss.

[ShadowRaven]

See you in another 20 years (if we're not all playing D&D type games in holographic rooms by then)

[Jasper_the_2nd]

In 20 years I might have everything from this kickstarter painted....

 

Nah, they will be too much cool stuff come out in the mean time. I'm sure there will be something still not painted.

[Frankthedm]

See you in another 20 years (if we're not all playing D&D type games in holographic rooms by then)

The coming decades are going to be interesting times for miniature manufacturers as home 3d printers get cheaper and cheaper.

Edited March 21, 2013 by Frankthedm

[Erifnogard]

 

See you in another 20 years (if we're not all playing D&D type games in holographic rooms by then)

The coming decades are going to be interesting times for miniature manufacturers as home 3d printers get cheaper and cheaper.

Honestly the factor that is important is resolution more than price. Or it's a combination of the two. There are already 3D printers that are cheap enough for many hardcore miniature gamers, but their resolution sucks and the surface of the printed object is to rough for anything approaching average miniature scale.

[buglips*the*goblin]

 

See you in another 20 years (if we're not all playing D&D type games in holographic rooms by then)

The coming decades are going to be interesting times for miniature manufacturers as home 3d printers get cheaper and cheaper.

 

 

I dunno, regular printers still don't work so good. How long have they been making those?

[Dai-Mongar]

 

 

See you in another 20 years (if we're not all playing D&D type games in holographic rooms by then)

The coming decades are going to be interesting times for miniature manufacturers as home 3d printers get cheaper and cheaper.

 

 

I dunno, regular printers still don't work so good. How long have they been making those?

 

Yeah, I don't want random lines appearing on my minis, or getting a jam in the plastic port.

I should point out at this juncture that I have absolutely no idea how 3d printers work.

[Pingo]

They seem to squeeze out melted plastic from a coil onto a heated plate with software to move the nozzle horizontally in one dimension while the plate moves horizontally in another and is raised and lowered.

 

The heated plate is exposed to the open air. The whole setup looks terrifyingly unsafe.

[Halberkill]

They seem to squeeze out melted plastic from a coil onto a heated plate with software to move the nozzle horizontally in one dimension while the plate moves horizontally in another and is raised and lowered.

 

The heated plate is exposed to the open air. The whole setup looks terrifyingly unsafe.

That sounds like the home version of a 3d printer. Some of the more advanced ones have a pool of resin that the laser cures the surface as a plate holding the printout moves down.

 

Halber

[Enpeze]

I guess it will be 10y down the pipeline untill we will be able to print out cheap high res minis of our own design at home.

Edited March 21, 2013 by Enpeze

[Dan Goodchild]

There's another method as well in which the medium is a fine powder that gets solidified and moved down similar to the resin method.

[hmdrake]

Dan's version is the one I'm familiar with.I basically grabbed two of everything big, so I'm pretty happy right now.

[redambrosia]

See you in another 20 years (if we're not all playing D&D type games in holographic rooms by then)

 

I will use the holographs for a grid and terrain, but I still want my minis that I paint. Painting is fun.

[nytflyr]

the only KS Bones I waivered on was the pathfinder dragon... now I have decided I want it... any idea on the price of that one?