Moderator Froggy the Great Posted October 26, 2012 Moderator Share Posted October 26, 2012 Ooh, the possibility now exists for His&Hers "Marital /rguments" set of Rock/Paper/Scissors rings. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reaperbryan Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 I'm sad because as badly as I want one, I can't wear them. Where I work, liquid tin splashing on your hands is a daily occupational hazard. I don't wear my wedding band to work, and neither does my wife, because 700 degree (*F) metal that hits your gold band suddenly freezes to that band - while simultaneously imparting 700*F of heat to a band encircling your finger. Thermodynamics! Anyway, it's not good. So we leave ours at home. To me, the main advantage of this is that you'd never not have your d20 with you, and never drop it, and for me, that advantage would be completely lost. Jewelry and metalsmithing do not match. This is also why we encourage our casters with facial piercing to remove them when they work - Splash Happens. Wait ... doesn't that mean the alternative is getting seven-hundred-degree molten tin ON YOUR HANDS?!? O.o I think the difference is (though yes, I share your alarm!) that you can quickly brush a splash off of your hands. If it gets on a piece of jewelry like how Bryan described, it's a lot longer to take off the piece of jewelry, and requires actually holding it, so then you're getting burned on the fingers doing the removing, as well as whatever body part you're trying to remove the jewelry from. Assuming trying to remove it is actually even a workable option. Having worked hith molten glass (~2000° F) there's a secret to your skin. When something that hot hits your skin (or wet paper, or anything else with water in it) it is temporarily cushioned by a layer of steam that is created before the material actually touches your skin. If you're quick, you can scrape it off or whatever before you get burnt. While shaping glass, the molten glass actually floats on that layer of steam, so there's no contact marr. If it hits something without water (say, a gold ring), there is no cushion of steam, and the heat instantly transfers to the object (ring). Which then burns the crap out of you. I'll have to get a video of my wife kissing molten glass. It's cool, but ya gotta be quick. -Dave ETA: I would rather have a small splash burn than a large jewelry burn. DispatchDave and Wren have this one! I get splashed by molten tin regularly, and have only ever twice been burned. In both cases the tin made contact with another substance - like my shirt - and froze on the first object, thus rendering my body's natural water & oil shield useless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reaperbryan Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 On a topic relevant to their project, I worry about this one, now, seeing how long it lasts and how quickly they funded. I worry specifically if they are ready for the logistics of tremendous over success. As a guy who helped plan for 3-5,000 backers and got 18,000, thinking most of the time that more than 6,000 was "speculation", I worry a lot about over success, now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando_the_Technicoloured Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 I have a horrible feeling you're right Even if the think they're prepared will all their suppliers be able to come through with large volumes of bits, even if they have said 'sure we can supply X thousand parts' (sort of like your bottle suppliers) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Inner Geek Posted October 26, 2012 Author Share Posted October 26, 2012 I worry a lot about over success, now... There are worse problems to have... but yes, I understand what you mean. Luckily as a customer, all I have to do is sit back and complain if my toys aren't delivered on time. Lucky me! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Last Knight Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 I get splashed by molten tin regularly, and have only ever twice been burned. In both cases the tin made contact with another substance - like my shirt - and froze on the first object, thus rendering my body's natural water & oil shield useless. ...so now you cast naked? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Darsc Zacal Posted October 26, 2012 Moderator Share Posted October 26, 2012 I get splashed by molten tin regularly, and have only ever twice been burned. In both cases the tin made contact with another substance - like my shirt - and froze on the first object, thus rendering my body's natural water & oil shield useless. ...so now you cast naked? I was going to say something about the C'Thulhu sculpt springing to mind... But I'm not going to as I still want to receive my kickstarter minis. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reaperbryan Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 I get splashed by molten tin regularly, and have only ever twice been burned. In both cases the tin made contact with another substance - like my shirt - and froze on the first object, thus rendering my body's natural water & oil shield useless. ...so now you cast naked? No photos allowed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonkeySloth Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 I'm sad because as badly as I want one, I can't wear them. Where I work, liquid tin splashing on your hands is a daily occupational hazard. I don't wear my wedding band to work, and neither does my wife, because 700 degree (*F) metal that hits your gold band suddenly freezes to that band - while simultaneously imparting 700*F of heat to a band encircling your finger. Thermodynamics! Anyway, it's not good. So we leave ours at home. To me, the main advantage of this is that you'd never not have your d20 with you, and never drop it, and for me, that advantage would be completely lost. Jewelry and metalsmithing do not match. This is also why we encourage our casters with facial piercing to remove them when they work - Splash Happens. Wait ... doesn't that mean the alternative is getting seven-hundred-degree molten tin ON YOUR HANDS?!? O.o I think the difference is (though yes, I share your alarm!) that you can quickly brush a splash off of your hands. If it gets on a piece of jewelry like how Bryan described, it's a lot longer to take off the piece of jewelry, and requires actually holding it, so then you're getting burned on the fingers doing the removing, as well as whatever body part you're trying to remove the jewelry from. Assuming trying to remove it is actually even a workable option. Having worked hith molten glass (~2000° F) there's a secret to your skin. When something that hot hits your skin (or wet paper, or anything else with water in it) it is temporarily cushioned by a layer of steam that is created before the material actually touches your skin. If you're quick, you can scrape it off or whatever before you get burnt. While shaping glass, the molten glass actually floats on that layer of steam, so there's no contact marr. If it hits something without water (say, a gold ring), there is no cushion of steam, and the heat instantly transfers to the object (ring). Which then burns the crap out of you. I'll have to get a video of my wife kissing molten glass. It's cool, but ya gotta be quick. -Dave ETA: I would rather have a small splash burn than a large jewelry burn. DispatchDave and Wren have this one! I get splashed by molten tin regularly, and have only ever twice been burned. In both cases the tin made contact with another substance - like my shirt - and froze on the first object, thus rendering my body's natural water & oil shield useless. Here's the mythbuster's results for dipping hands in hot metal: A person can wet his hand and briefly dip it into molten lead without injury. confirmed Adam and Jamie did some research on the Leidenfrost effect, in which cool water vaporizing on a very hot surface generates a layer of vapor that temporarily insulates against high temperature. They melted some lead in a crucible and heated it to 700 degrees Fahrenheit, then dipped a raw, wet sausage; it emerged partially cooked and with some particles of lead adhering to it. After they raised the temperature to 850 degrees Fahrenheit, the sausage could be dipped and removed unscathed, since the lead was now hot enough not to solidify on contact. Finally, Adam and Jamie dipped their own fingers into the liquid – a pinky and an index for Jamie, four fingers at once for Adam – and brought them out unscathed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonkeySloth Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 On a topic relevant to their project, I worry about this one, now, seeing how long it lasts and how quickly they funded. I worry specifically if they are ready for the logistics of tremendous over success. As a guy who helped plan for 3-5,000 backers and got 18,000, thinking most of the time that more than 6,000 was "speculation", I worry a lot about over success, now... This is partly why I'm not backing this. The other reason is while the concept is novel I'm not sure it's actually of any use for any real gaming sessions and more of a "hey look what my ring can do!". 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando_the_Technicoloured Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 Important part of a new update from them Hypoallergenic claim removed Our most sincere apologies. An incredible amount of jewelry sites claim their stainless steel jewelry is Hypoallergenic, so we had added that to our feature list. 316L stainless steel has a small percent of Nickel in it, which can sometimes cause a rash if the person wearing it has Nickel allergy. If you do, we are working on making a set of Titanium Dice Rings for this project, which would be truly hypoallergenic. We have removed the "Hypoallergenic" feature from our list. We cannot remove it from the video, but it was mostly there just for fun. Thank you to the backers who informed me of the common misuse of the term. So anybody who has a nickle allergy may want to rethink (unless they know they can wear 316L stainess steel) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artists Wren Posted October 27, 2012 Artists Share Posted October 27, 2012 On a topic relevant to their project, I worry about this one, now, seeing how long it lasts and how quickly they funded. I worry specifically if they are ready for the logistics of tremendous over success. As a guy who helped plan for 3-5,000 backers and got 18,000, thinking most of the time that more than 6,000 was "speculation", I worry a lot about over success, now... I started worrying about this a bit today, as they're already at twice their requested pledge level and have almost two months left on the Kickstarter! Hopefully they'll address this question soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klawzie Posted October 27, 2012 Share Posted October 27, 2012 Hmm. I hadn't considered they might run into oversuccess problems. It does sway me to think more about buying after they've done their first orders. Especially since I am stretched a bit thin for some unknown reason! ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pingo Posted October 27, 2012 Share Posted October 27, 2012 On a topic relevant to their project, I worry about this one, now, seeing how long it lasts and how quickly they funded. I worry specifically if they are ready for the logistics of tremendous over success. As a guy who helped plan for 3-5,000 backers and got 18,000, thinking most of the time that more than 6,000 was "speculation", I worry a lot about over success, now... Do you, now? But yes, I think it must be a serious consideration for anyone thinking of doing a Kickstarter. You guys were fortunate to already have infrastructure and supply lines, not to mention most of your figures already sculpted. I can scarcely fathom how much trouble would be involved for a startup that got a reaction proportionate to yours. After all, more money may be able to buy more supplies, but it can't get things made or shipped faster. It must have been a wild ride at Reaper last August, and I sometimes think it would be interesting if it got written up as a human interest magazine article, like the ones in the New Yorker or Harpers or the New York Times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artists Wren Posted October 27, 2012 Artists Share Posted October 27, 2012 Although I see now that they've got a stretch goal almost double the current amount, so perhaps they have been planning for success. (Colour options for the rings, which will be very cool!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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