ObsidianCrane Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 I went the opposite way, I don't have the cash to upgrade due to shipping. Company attitude left me cold and the stretch goals did nothing for me (compounded by their massive gaps). I hope the game fans get a product they enjoy, but there just isn't enough in this for me at what I can afford to keep it going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonkeySloth Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 There's a podcast up all about the game and even talks about the infamous quote that turned people off. Basically that quote was as innocent as I thought, they wanted people to realize that kickstarter not a discounted Wyrd story so they will no be placing anything, outside of the book, that Wyrd sales via normal channels in the KS as rewards or add ons. http://gamerslounge.coda.net/2012/11/30/gamers-lounge-special-through-the-breach/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CashWiley Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 I went in to secure the limited mini offer, but I'm not sure if I'm staying in. The game sounds pretty cool, but I don't rpg anymore and my money is really getting gutted by KD and Imbrian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nocturne Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 My drop this one as I might need the money to live for at least a couple of weeks into January. I'm going to hold off on cancelling as I pledged early to get Miss Terious, I'm trying to decide if I really want that Hanging Tree as it's just the figures I'm interested in. The pirce they both go for (and availability) makes it worth it.... but do I really want that tree..... At the moment though it's a handy way of forcing me to save at least a bit of money to New Year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CashWiley Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 I have to wonder what their strategy is with this KS. I guess they have comfortably hit their goal and don't care about making any more money? Just seems like the oddest KS of the dozen plus I have backed (though I'm no longer a backer of this one). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nocturne Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 the part I find odd is there are daily videos yet no interaction from them in the comments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonkeySloth Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 It is strange but they've said many times they don't want this KS to be a "store" so they're not planning any add-ons, though I wonder if that will change as the end date reaches, and it really seams to be kind of an experiment in doing a different type of Kickstarter--which I'm fine with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando_the_Technicoloured Posted December 12, 2012 Author Share Posted December 12, 2012 I think the oddest thing is the way they are putting out all the publicity/chat/interaction off KS, thus leaving the comments as a deadzone Even if they don't incorporate traditional stretch goals bar the weak ones now up (and there's nothing to say they should), just putting out their chat's with the designer etc as KS updates would fuel the project, folk would post positive news to other websites etc Making folk go hunting for it cuts the numbers who will bother to do so, meaning less positive chat etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonkeySloth Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 I hate the comments sections on Kickstarter because it's a waste of time to find any comments of value with a popular kickstarter, like this one, so moving everything off KS to a place where I don't have to wade though all the useless stuff in the comments makes me happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan d'Lyon Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 I'm not a big fan of people who buy things with the sole purpose of selling it on Ebay for more, especially within this hobby as I see them as not much better then recasters. I have to completely disagree here. This hobby is an investment just like any other. I make stock investments in order to sell them later at a profit over what I bought them at today. What's the difference? I invest in LOTS of miniatures that I want for my personal collection, but I only make money on the others if people are willing to pay a higher price for them. I don't determine that price, the market does. So lumping people that resell legitimately purchased items at a profit with people that steal sculpts and recast them while posing as original is a very harsh and unfair comparison. For example, I had a bunch of Ilyad Games stuff awhile back that I purchased at retail prices through an online store in France. Yes, it was shortly after Ilyad closed down. But anybody else with internet access could do the same thing. I then listed them and made a bunch of money because people were wiling to pay an exorbitant amount for them. Likewise, I had a guy ask me to find a bunch of Ilyad models for him. So I did a lot of searching and found just about everything he was after. I then sold it to him at a good profit for me. He could have done the same thing and saved himself a bunch of cash, but it was worth it to him to pay me. That's just capitalism, and I'm not against turning my foresight into profit. VERY different from the outright theft of recasters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonkeySloth Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 (edited) My hate comes from the people that buy something and on the same day turn around and sell it for as much profit as possible. I know people that are really only in this hobby to buy limited edition things and ebay them, they're people I don't care to talk to much as I find them horrible people for doing such. One guy buys as many PAX tickets as he can get and then just scalps them a day or so after the convention is sold out for a lot of money--he never has any intention of going but doing this kind of thing is a large source of income for him and I find it morally reprehensible. I could care less if someone buys something because they like it, and get a few extras, and then sees there's a price to it and sells it. But there's no end to the infuriation of waiting in line for something at Gencon only for the item to sell out then you find half the total number sold on Ebay for 4x the price the same day. Edited December 12, 2012 by MonkeySloth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CashWiley Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 My only issue is when it deals with limited run models. Some stuff is limited to runs of 100, that's tight for fans to get even without speculators buying stuff to then turn around and grab a profit from the fans. I'm not ok with that kind of predatory capitalism. I won't get into my feelings about the stock market and the devastation it has caused. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan d'Lyon Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 I can agree on creating a false shortage in order to make money being a bad thing. And I've never been one to buy limited editions strictly with the intent to turn them around for a quick profit. You're right that the limited nature should allow as many people as possible to get enjoyment out of them. That's especially true in this hobby - simply because I'm part of it and I want to see it flourish. That being said, I did buy some old Ral Partha stuff at a silent auction and turned it for a quick profit. I never had any intention of using it. But nobody else put in a bid, so it wasn't like I really prevented someone else from getting it. I'm not going to waste an opportunity like that though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ApesAmongUs Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 This hobby is an investment just like any other. As a general rule, hobbies aren't investments. That statement is beyond bizarre. It's downright alien. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beagle Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 A number of miniatures kickstarters have provided pledge levels specifically aimed at people who want to buy to sell (and/or retailers). I have no problem with it, as long as those people aren't stopping me pledging for what I want. Also they're all upping the total and helping to hit stretch goals I agree that it's not like scalping and buying up a limited resource and profiting by stopping others from getting a fair shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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