WL System Discussion (Split from Karkarions)

[Girot]

... also go to the secondary market to buy and sell to finance their habit hobby.

 

Fixed that for ya.

[Girot]

I really like that there are only two books to the current edition. It makes collecting, and learning, so much easier on my brain and my wallet. I have not yet had occassion to play Warlord but it would seem that I have way more than enough models already to field a number of different factions. Far more after KSB arrives. If there is Warlord going on at RC I'll be checking that out. Much easier to learn a game watching it versus reading it.

[MiniCannuck]

I really like that there are only two books to the current edition. It makes collecting, and learning, so much easier on my brain and my wallet. I have not yet had occassion to play Warlord but it would seem that I have way more than enough models already to field a number of different factions. Far more after KSB arrives. If there is Warlord going on at RC I'll be checking that out. Much easier to learn a game watching it versus reading it.

Stubdog ran an excellent tournament last year. Lots of sun scenarios and fantastic boards. If you don't have the time to commit to a full day of warlord, I'm sure there will be people around to play some demo games.

[joshuaslater]

I couldn't be much happier. I'm still painting up multiple forces from the first book. I've got YEARS of Warlord ahead of me yet.

[Girot]

Thanks to you guys I got TONS of undead knocked out last Autumn so all I need is a couple vamps and I'm ready to roll some Necropolis. I've also got a handful of living dead (nefsokar) done but need some ranged and heavy hitters to balance things a bit. I've always wanted to play Tomb Kings so Nefsokar suits me just fine.

[joshuaslater]

Between me and my friend, we'll one day have all of the factions. Much to paint!!

[Girot]

i have a question about base sizes.... i have a habbit of basing all of my familiar sized models on 20mm bases. will that be an issue? i have zero intention of rebasing any of them regardless.

[ObsidianCrane]

Warlord just uses 25mm, 40mm and 50mm square bases. Just get some sticky tack of your choice and use it to hold the familiar to the 25mm base.

[joshuaslater]

Warlord just uses 25mm, 40mm and 50mm square bases. Just get some sticky tack of your choice and use it to hold the familiar to the 25mm base.

OC, this is sound advice, but I'll go one further. After you've learned the game, you'll find a familiar on a 20mm square ain't gonna change or break anything. We throw prepainted plastics on the table now, with round bases, and we still know who gets/adds support, or is affected by a spell.

[flvolunteer]

We have a lot of gamers in our group that play several systems so we allow a variation of 1/4" on all base sizes with the following exceptions: Models with the Swing-through SA must never be LARGER as that would potentially allow them to use that SA on more models and Models with the Ranked and Indirect Fire SA's may never be on SMALLER bases as that would allow them to hide easier and take advantage of those SA's.

 

So far we've never run into any problems or any players abusing smaller base sizes as the variation really doesn't even come into play in a "fur ball."

Hope that helps!

 

-Eric

[joshuaslater]

Something needs to said. People who would abuse the base size in a game are typically those you wouldn't want to game with. Hell, you see people arguing about base contact in games with uniform bases sometimes!!

[flvolunteer]

Something needs to said. People who would abuse the base size in a game are typically those you wouldn't want to game with. Hell, you see people arguing about base contact in games with uniform bases sometimes!!

 

Agreed. The guidelines we came up with were because, with certain SA's, it is impossible NOT to take advantage of a smaller/larger bases, regardless of intention. For example, a Ranked shooter on a smaller base will be harder to hit because a tighter angle is required to draw LoS.

 

Technically, base shape/size influences the establishment of B2B. In our group, thus far, we have nobody purposely basing miniatures to leverage this factor, they're only using differnt bases sizes because the models are used in other systems. We havent done much "sticky basing" to up the size of a base (though it is a great technique) because we prefer to maintain the aesthetic appeal of the game as much as apossible and the tradeoff hasn't had enough of an impact on game outcome for us to strictly enforce base size. That and the fact that none of us play competetively.

[Girot]

Great responses guys, thank you. I am fully on-board with the base regulations, I just didn't want to have to re-base or duplicate models to make them legal for play. When I put the models in question together I used 20mm bases because the size was appropriate for the size of the model. 25mm was just too big and I never really had enough room to put them on the same base as their owners. I'll go back through the rules on familiars and make the call that is most in keeping with the spirit of the rules.

[joshuaslater]

After enough games under your belt, it gets simpler. Don't let round or odd shaped bases turn you away from this great game, and don't rebase models either. Just enjoy.

[Qwyksilver]

For tournament play at Reaper Con you're going to want legal basing. If it's just for a friendly pick up game, most people won't be bothered. Instead of poster tacking on an entire base, just use a piece of cardboard/balsa/sheet metal/etc cut to size.