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Lol, you think thats bad Buglips? Elrond shows as $70 Australian (which is about $70 US too).....

 

Just goes to show that they think they have the corner on the market here.... get real!

 

Hey, I thought "Get something" too, but... it wasn't "real". It was a bad word.

 

 

My instinctive response to GW's prices is bad words.... but since I dont tend to like their sculpts I take the nasty thoughts out of my mind by browsing the reaper pages.... with attractive prices and good customer service.

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Occasionally their sculpts are great. I think the LOTR tie ins were some of their sculptor's best work. Some of the rest I just have stylistic preferences against, and some is awful. But the prices, holy crap the prices! Some of the plastics are decent value for wargamers... or were in the dark centuries BB... Before Bones.

 

If you do like GW games go ebay and pick up all the stuff that gets half assembled and dumped. Space marines especially can be had super cheap.

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Forgeworld, which seems to have become the reasonably priced option now...

good grief o_0 prices MUST have gone crazy.

 

I'm glad I got out of GW wargaming as putting together an army is horrifying, but I do still really like their sculpts and, due largely to their prevalence and easy access in the area, are one of my go to companies. I try not to compare GW to any other miniatures company going though. They are working in a completely different way to pretty much everyone else except Wizards.

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I found with 40K a few years back, basic troops and vehicles were quite OK. You'd start thinking "oh, I can probably do this". Then you'd realise that to actually have a working army you would need at LEAST one specialist squad and it was going to be something like $15 per figure or more, for one configuration of one squad of ten men. So it was about $150 to get a big, serious looking core down, then $300 or so for the two little bleeding squads you needed to have one or two halfway interesting tactical options. RAAAAAAAAAAAAGE.

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I think that's part of why the Marines got to be the poster boys for the game, most people wanted to play as you needed far fewer figures than the likes of Orks and Imperial guard.

Having said that though a large army of either of the latter looks far more impressive than the some points sied army of marines..... of course it also then all dies quicker as well....

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I think that's part of why the Marines got to be the poster boys for the game, most people wanted to play as you needed far fewer figures than the likes of Orks and Imperial guard.Having said that though a large army of either of the latter looks far more impressive than the same points sized army of marines..... of course most of it ends up spending less time on the table as well....

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Well, I'm gonna be a sneaky goblin. Warlord + Bones, that's my plan. Then I'm going to go out and show people there's a new way, a better way, a way that doesn't require a second mortgage.

 

I bet you could build a pretty good bones Necropolis force for the price of that Elrond.

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I find it useful to look for information from odd directions. I have found interesting news about games companies in financial magazines, for example.

 

In the last week, Games Workshop announced their CEO would step down. I can't find the reference on my phone, but I saw an article in a UK financial paper that talked about GW's strategy, and how much it relied on the American market and deep-pocketed American teenagers (that was their assumption about their customers anyway). It's fascinating to listen to insiders talk when they think only insiders are present, quite illuminating.

 

On the whole, I find GW's sculpts high quality, if exaggerated, and its females tend to be outright grotesque. It reminds me very much of what I have seen of UK comic book art. I haven't looked closely at GW's LOTR stuff.

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The lotr stuff looks amazing, but they aren't worth half of what they are charging. I also don't particularly like their business ethic, they charge as much as they can possibly get away with, which tells me they don't give a damn about their customer base. And even if they don't they should at least pretend to a little bit for their own sake. One of these days people are going to look at GW and then they are gonna look at reaper and all the other independents and think to themselves why the hell am I spending all my money on this mediocre GW product , when I can get 5-10 times as much stuff from reaper or else where. A revolution is bound to happen, and I see GW going the way of the Dodo. I would be afraid if I was them, very afraid.

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One of these days people are going to look at GW and then they are gonna look at reaper and all the other independents and think to themselves why the hell am I spending all my money on this mediocre GW product , when I can get 5-10 times as much stuff from reaper or else where. A revolution is bound to happen, and I see GW going the way of the Dodo. I would be afraid if I was them, very afraid.

Not to sound like I'm defending their terrible pricing, but I've been hearing that same reasoning since at least the early 90's when I started this hobby. During that time there have been numerous games and companies that were considered to be GW killers, many of which have long since dissappeared. As repugnant as their business practices may be at times, they do however work.

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At some point or another people will stop buying, maybe not all at once but if a gallon of gas is $6 I stop driving and that's a necessity more than anything really. It's the same thing with GW, they are slowly but surely burning their bridges, more and more people dislike their practices and refuse to pay the outrageous prices that they set, eventually they go into the hole. All it takes is one nasty little mistake and bye bye GW .

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