Some chalk with your Burgundy Wine, Sir?

[Spinward Bound 138]

I'm doing some shading on my current mini with some MSP Burgundy Wine. I have it really thinned down to about 1:10 paint:water. After several passes I noticed it started to get a chalky appearance.

 

I used the same color as a base coat on another part of the mini with about three coats and had no problem there. It was only when I thinned it out to glaze that it started to chalk up.

 

What am I doing wrong and is there a way to correct it?

 

 

Thanks!

Edited February 12, 2013 by Spinward Bound

[MonkeySloth 9148]

You're not doing anything wrong. Some pigments just don't take to being watered down that much but it's not that common with shades compared to highlight and flesh colors.

 

To fix it add a drop or two of a matte medium or reaper brush on sealer.

Edited February 10, 2013 by MonkeySloth

[Spinward Bound 138]

Thanks a bunch! Hopefully it covers up the chalky layers.

[MonkeySloth 9148]

I should add that you should add the matte medium to your paint. You should be able to fix the chalkiness but you'll need a few coats.

[smokingwreckage 9134]

Thinning with airbrush medium or acrylic medium, rather than water, has also been suggested. I am a crap painter, but I find when really (over) thinning for glazes etc., that a drop of Matte medium - the stuff with consistency of wood glue - really helps. Have to be careful with it though as it can add physical bulk back in, which presumably you don't want.

[CashWiley 36447]

I also use quite a bit of matte medium when I thin down to glaze. I find it ironic that it will make the glaze shiny.

[badocter 688]

Thinning with airbrush medium or acrylic medium, rather than water, has also been suggested. I am a crap painter, but I find when really (over) thinning for glazes etc., that a drop of Matte medium - the stuff with consistency of wood glue - really helps. Have to be careful with it though as it can add physical bulk back in, which presumably you don't want.

That sounds really thick. The liquitex matte medium I have is the consistency of milk.

[Last Knight 38819]

Thinning with airbrush medium or acrylic medium, rather than water, has also been suggested. I am a crap painter, but I find when really (over) thinning for glazes etc., that a drop of Matte medium - the stuff with consistency of wood glue - really helps. Have to be careful with it though as it can add physical bulk back in, which presumably you don't want.

That sounds really thick. The liquitex matte medium I have is the consistency of milk.

Mine's like a thinner yogurt.

[Sanael 14923]

 

 

 

Thinning with airbrush medium or acrylic medium, rather than water, has also been suggested. I am a crap painter, but I find when really (over) thinning for glazes etc., that a drop of Matte medium - the stuff with consistency of wood glue - really helps. Have to be careful with it though as it can add physical bulk back in, which presumably you don't want.

That sounds really thick. The liquitex matte medium I have is the consistency of milk.

 

Mine's like a thinner yogurt.

 

I like a sharp goat cheese with my wine.

[Baugi 4020]

If you want an option that won't add shine, try army painter brush on matte varnish. I add a drop to all my thinned paints, and it works beautifully.

[Girot 8280]

Every time i hear the word glaze i think of pottery. Can someone clearly define what exactly y'all are refering to?

[Seer of the Pitt 3213]

Every time i hear the word glaze i think of pottery. Can someone clearly define what exactly y'all are refering to?

 

A glaze is thinned down paint similar to a wash, though usually it's thinner, applied so that it doesn't pool up in the mini's recesses. Here's a link a quick forum search yielded.

 

edit.-- I got the link url replaced with text--woohoo.

Edited February 10, 2013 by Seer of the Pitt

[recruittons 1161]

Think wash, but thinner and not-runny

[Girot 8280]

aaaaahhhhh..... the 'not-runny' part would be what I've been missing.

[Pingo 109314]

Every time i hear the word glaze i think of pottery. Can someone clearly define what exactly y'all are refering to?

A caveat: this is about oil painting on a big scale. In the fine arts painting world a glaze is a very thin layer of transparent paint with a darker or more intense color than what it's being laid over. Some glazes are mixed with varnish to give a shiny appearance, but (with oil paint at least) not even paint thinner is really necessary. Pure paint can be laid down and gently spread with a soft brush.

 

For minis it's a thin layer of transparnt paint, not runny.

 

As a piece of probably useless trivia, the opposite of a glaze is a scumble. A scumble is a very thin layer of translucent paint with a lighter color than what it's laid down on. It gives pearlescent and atmospheric effects and tends to make the underlying color look cooler and bluer.