Delayed Robotech RPG Tactics - Palladium

[dice4hire]

I never backed this but wow. 

[HornedTurtle]

Where do I have to go to find out what I can get for the wave 2 stuff?

[dice4hire]

Look at the latest Update, it lists prices for both Wave I and Wave II stuff. 

[Jasper_the_2nd]

Here is the update with that info @HornedTurtle

 

Get Wave One Items for your Wave Two Rewards – but you need to do it fast Posted by Palladium Books (Creator)

If you missed the previous Update, read this first! You can get Wave One rewards in exchange for the unrealized Wave Two rewards – but you will have to pay for shipping. We estimate shipping to all 5,000+ backers around the world will cost $120,000-$160,000. We’re sorry, but Palladium Books just does not have the resources to cover that expense, so if you would like to get Wave One rewards in exchange for the Wave Two rewards, we must ask you to pay for the shipping. We will do our best to ship as inexpensively as possible, and we will only pass along our actual costs – with Palladium covering the cost of labor – but Palladium does not enjoy the steep shipping discounts of mega-corps like Amazon. Moreover, our overseas backers will have to contend with Customs fees, taxes and other costs. Individual costs may vary substantially depending on the volume you are receiving and where it is shipping to. The size or weight of the package will also have an impact on cost. Shipping costs should not be too bad for most backers in the USA, probably averaging around $20-$35, but shipping to Canada is easily double that amount, and triple or more for overseas thanks to the nightmare that is dimensional weight. $18-$35 in the USA is our rough estimate for most typical packages shipping within the contiguous United States of America. More to Alaska, Hawaii, and Puerto Rico. Of course, some will be much less and some much more depending on how much you are receiving. We will pack up your rewards, weigh it all, and let you know the shipping cost BEFORE we charge your credit card and ship. $40-$70 to Canada is our very rough estimate. $60-$100 or more to overseas/EU/Australia is our very rough estimate. Note: The lower numbers above are based on a 9 pound (4 kg) package consisting of one core game and one of each of the six add-on packages. The second, higher price is based on 2 core box games and one of each expansion pack; 13 pounds (just under 6 kg). We think most backers should fall in this range. Obviously, fewer items will mean a lower shipping cost. More will increase the cost. We know this isn’t what you hoped for. And again, we are very sorry, but it is all we can offer. Reward Exchange Details If you want to receive Wave One rewards for Wave Two – and pay the shipping cost – this is what to do: 1. Send us a Kickstarter Message to request reward exchange. Your absolute best method for contacting Palladium to request Wave One rewards for your Wave Two Remaining Rewards Value (RRV) is via Kickstarter Message. This not only makes it easier for us to keep track of your specific reward selections, it also lets us easily verify your identity as a backer of this project. Once we receive your message, we will provide you with your Remaining Rewards Value so that you can select the Wave One items of your choice at the RRT Kickstarter campaign values, not their current retail prices. If for some reason you cannot send us a message through Kickstarter itself, you can email us at [email protected], but it will take us extra time to verify that you are a backer, and you might need to provide additional information (e.g. your Backer Number, BackerKit Pledge Number, pledge amount, etc.) to help us do so. If you cannot send us a Kickstarter Message or an email, you can call the office order line, 734-721-2903. However, to help eliminate confusion and ensure that we send you the correct rewards, please refrain from calling unnecessarily, except to send us your credit card information to cover shipping. To save yourself time and to get put at the front of the line for selecting rewards that are very limited in quantity, include your reward exchange selections in your first Kickstarter Message. Calculate your own Remaining Rewards Value as follows: Blitzkrieg Wave Two components: $23.78 Battle Cry Wave Two components: $31.76 Showdown Wave Two components: $52.94 Reckless Wave Two components: $105.88 Rick Hunter: $15.00 Roy Fokker: $15.00 Armored Valkyries: $20.00 Experimental Battloid: $20.00 SF-3A Lancer II: $20.00 QF-3000 Ghost Drone: $20.00 YF-4 Veritechs: $30.00 VEF-1/VF-1D Valkyrie Pack: $30.00 Super Valkyrie Wing: $35.00 Mk.II Monster: $40.00 Daedalus Attack Wave Two components: $112.50 Khyron Glaug Battlepod: $15.00 Miriya Queadluun-Rau Female Power Armor: $15.00 Gnerl Fighters: $15.00 Zentraedi Male Power Armor Pack: $20.00 Zentraedi Infantry: $30.00 Queadluun-Rau: $30.00 Glaug Eldare: $30.00 Glaug Eldare Squadron: $80.00 Objective Pack 1: $15.00 Objective Pack 2: $15.00 SDF-1 Resin Bases: $20.00 SDF-1: $20.00 2. Consult the list of reward exchange items below to select a number of Wave One rewards worth your Remaining Rewards Value. Any RRV left unused will be lost. 3. Send us a Kickstarter Message with your reward exchange selections. Please also include your current shipping address, just to make sure we have your correct, current address. Make sure to include your Apartment Number. 4. We will pull your reward exchange selections, pack them in a shipping carton, weigh it, and calculate the exact shipping cost. We will then send you a Kickstarter Message to let you know what that cost is. 5. Send us your credit card info (via Kickstarter Message, or by phone at 734-721-2903) and we will charge you for the shipping cost, or send a PayPal payment to [email protected], then let us know you have sent payment. 6. Once we have received payment for shipping, we will ship your rewards, and you will receive an email with a tracking number for the package. DEADLINE: March 20, 2018 Time is of the essence. We must hear from you as soon as possible and start shipping rewards out. In addition, we have limited inventory, so the sooner you tell us what you want and pay for shipping, the more likely you are to get the exact Wave One rewards you want. AVAILABLE ONLY WHILE SUPPLIES LAST. Thank you for your cooperation and understanding. Available Rewards Robotech RPG Tactics Core Game Box – Rewards Value: $80.00 UEDF Decals – Rewards Value: $5.00 Zentraedi Decals – Rewards Value: $5.00 UEDF Dice Pack – Rewards Value: $12.00 Zentraedi Dice Pack – Rewards Value: $12.00 UEDF Tokens & Template – Rewards Value: $10.00 (Extremely limited quantity available!) Zentraedi Tokens & Template – Rewards Value: $10.00 (Extremely limited quantity available!) Combined Token & Template Pack – Rewards Value: $15.00 RRT Rulebook – Rewards Value: $20.00 UEDF Valkyrie Wing – Rewards Value: $25.00 UEDF Tomahawk/Defender Destroids – Rewards Value: $20.00 UEDF Spartan/Phalanx Destroids – Rewards Value: $20.00 Zentraedi Regult Battlepods – Rewards Value: $25.00 Zentraedi Artillery Battlepods – Rewards Value: $20.00 Zentraedi Glaug Command – Rewards Value: $20.00 Convention Exclusive: Max Sterling's Valkyrie – Rewards Value: $22.00 (Limit 1 Convention Exclusive per backer, plus 1 per $100 in Remaining Rewards Value, up to maximum of 11. So as many backers who want them can get some.) Convention Exclusive: Miriya Sterling's Super Valkyrie – Rewards Value: $22.00 (Limit 1 Convention Exclusive per backer, plus 1 per $100 in Remaining Rewards Value, up to maximum of 11. So as many backers who want them can get some.) Convention Exclusive: Breetai in Combat Armor – Rewards Value: $22.00 (Limit 1 Convention Exclusive per backer, plus 1 per $100 in Remaining Rewards Value, up to maximum of 11. So as many backers who want them can get some.) Convention Exclusive: Grell in Male Power Armor – Rewards Value: $22.00 (Limit 1 Convention Exclusive per backer, plus 1 per $100 in Remaining Rewards Value, up to maximum of 11. So as many backers who want them can get some.) Battle Cry Wave 1 Extras Bag – Rewards Value: $120.00 (Very limited quantity available!) Robotech® The Shadow Chronicles® Role-Playing Game (Manga size) – Rewards Value: $16.95 Robotech® The Macross® Saga Sourcebook – Rewards Value: $16.95 Robotech® The Masters Saga™ Sourcebook – Rewards Value: $20.95 All Robotech® products are to be liquidated Palladium’s license for RRT and the Robotech® RPG book series has ended. That means we will be liquidating ALL Robotech® products, starting with RRT backers who want to receive Wave One items for their Wave Two rewards. As part of our license agreement, Palladium has a short window (from now until the end of March) to liquidate our stock of Robotech® RPG Tactics (RRT) products, Robotech® Shadow Chronicles® Role-Playing Game books, and the PDFs of the original Robotech® RPG series currently available on DriveThruRPG.com. So you must act quickly. We will announce specific sales in the days ahead. – Palladium Books

[Sergeant_Crunch]

Somehow I doubt they'd have enough money for refunds if they liquidated everything they own and closed the business.

[Werkrobotwerk]

I am curious as to how cheep the liquidation will get.

[Gadgetman!]

I wonder how long they've been sitting on the news that they no longer have the license...

 

One month is kind of a short time to liquidate everything Robotech from their inventory.

 

[Pingo]

They lost the license? Is there some other backstory here?

[HornedTurtle]

So I know I have the battle cry wave 2 and I added the sdf-1, so that's about $51 worth of stuff.  That should just about match the rpg books, does anyone know if the books are any good?

[Jasper_the_2nd]

2 minutes ago, HornedTurtle said:

So I know I have the battle cry wave 2 and I added the sdf-1, so that's about $51 worth of stuff.  That should just about match the rpg books, does anyone know if the books are any good?

If you like the palladium game system.  They use basically the same system for everything (Rifts, Palladium fantasy, TMNT, Robotech, etc).

I started roleplaying on Rifts so always had a soft spot for the Palladium stuff.  Not anymore though.

 

1 hour ago, Pingo said:

They lost the license? Is there some other backstory here?

With Palladium?  Always at least two backstories...

I suspect they let it go as a way to finally close the door on this mess without actually admitting any guilt.

But who really knows?

 

I requested a refund last night.  So far, no response. I'll be curious to see if I ever get one.

[vutpakdi]

I read some comment that Harmony Gold was going to lose its license in the next few years, so that may have factored into any decision about renewing a license.  As well, the share of revenue from the Robotech line may have dwindled to the point that it didn't make any sense to renew at the requested rate, regardless of anything surrounding the Kickstarter project.

 

Ron

[cmorse]

3 hours ago, Pingo said:

They lost the license? Is there some other backstory here?

 

The back story to the licencing right to Robotech has always been a mess. It could be Harmony Gold wanting to end this mess or it could be a question of whether Harmony Gold is currently even allowed to renew the licence with Palladium.

[Sergeant_Crunch]

5 hours ago, Pingo said:

They lost the license? Is there some other backstory here?

You mean other than having horrible business planning and budgeting skills?

 

1 hour ago, vutpakdi said:

I read some comment that Harmony Gold was going to lose its license in the next few years, so that may have factored into any decision about renewing a license.  As well, the share of revenue from the Robotech line may have dwindled to the point that it didn't make any sense to renew at the requested rate, regardless of anything surrounding the Kickstarter project.

 

Ron

Maybe this means we can get all the other Macross series in the U.S.?

[skippen]

What a mess.

[Olaf the Stout]

14 hours ago, HornedTurtle said:

Where do I have to go to find out what I can get for the wave 2 stuff?

You want to give Palladium more money after this? Obviously it's your choice, but it seems like that's just throwing good money after bad.

6 hours ago, Pingo said:

They lost the license? Is there some other backstory here?

My guess is the licence was always a 5 year licence. The Kickstarter launched in April 2013 and funded in May 2013, so that lines up with a 5 year licence starting on 1 April 2013 and ending on 31 March 2018.

 

So Palladium have probably known for a long time now that their licence was ending.