Jump to content

Bones: Preparation (Glues, Putties, Mould Lines, Etc.)


Recommended Posts

  • Replies 103
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Top Posters In This Topic

Top Posters In This Topic

Popular Posts

I put together a few documents related to using Bones. I've submitted these to the Craft section of the website, but as it may be a little while before Reaper has the time available to add them, Bryan

Sounds like it will close cuts from the hobby knife quite readily too!

This right here.

Posted Images

  • Artists

@Jordan Peacock - The Kickstarter figures had not come out when I did my testing, and I haven't since had a chance to play with any of the dragons. Hopefully some dragon fans will have some insights for us soon.

 

@Canuck - That clue is specifically formulated for polystyrene plastic. It works by literally dissolving the plastic so when you touch two pieces of polystyrene together, as the glue evaporates, the plastic reforms bonding the pieces together. (That's probably not a precise technical explanation, but does summarize the end effect.) I believe it has pretty much no effect on plastic that is not polystyrene, so I didn't even test it, since the Bones is a different material. You could test it on some bases just to make sure, but I'm pretty sure it won't work. Many boxed model sets and the plain and textured plasticard sheets and tubes and such that you can get at the hobby shop are made of polystyrene. The white sheets I used in the basing test are polystyrene.

 

@werehawk - Interesting tip on the chilling, I might have to try that!

Link to post
Share on other sites

I have a question about boiling that I hope someone can help me with. Last night I received some bones and threw a few into hot water from the tap. It noticeably affected them but the gargoyle specifically quickly returned to its bent position after I removed it from the water. I applied pressure during the cooling process and it worked a bit better, but it wasn't until I left a pocket knife crushing the mini in position that it finally took the right shape.

 

My question is how other people's experience has been? Does the water need to be boiling? How long does it take for the new position to set? Should the bone (singular) just go flexible or completely limp? Any info would be helpful, thank you in advance!

 

Edit: after getting home I discovered that both gargoyles are now bent back into the same position. I am wondering if that is their home position, but it seems an odd angle. If anyone else with them could please tell me the angle of the wings to each other, that would be great as mine are almost a U shape.

Edited by Arnifix
Link to post
Share on other sites

Definitely boiling works best in my experience. The mini gets quite floppy, so much so that I was worried it would melt. Mine set quite fast, though that really depends on thicknesses. You shouldn't need a weight on it, though I did press a dragon down on a table until it was in the position I liked.

  • Like 1
Link to post
Share on other sites

My question is how other people's experience has been? Does the water need to be boiling? How long does it take for the new position to set? Should the bone (singular) just go flexible or completely limp? Any info would be helpful, thank you in advance!

 

I fixed about 30 Bones last night in under 20 minutes with boiling water. For the smaller minis I held the bent areas, usually the feet/connection to the base, in the boiling water carefully for about 10-15 seconds. This was sufficient to loosen the plastic up. In many cases the mini quickly (about 5 seconds) reverted to the position it was molded in after dunking it in the water. If you watch a mini when dunked you'll see it relax and once that happens I pulled it out and iced it.

 

I had a harder time fixing a Kaladrax wing because it was thicker, but I extended the time I held it in the boiling water and it looks great now.

 

I always held them in the end position I wanted and dunked them in ice water for a few seconds, until they stiffened up and felt cold.

 

I'm new to minis but old to RPGs, so I'm a newb at this type of thing and it was easy.

  • Like 1
Link to post
Share on other sites

I'm curious - can I put dish soap into the boiling water and take care of washing off the release agents all at once?

I was wondering about just putting them in the dishwasher, for the same reasons. No heat-drying, obviously, just a bunch of hot detergent water to get them de-gunked and maybe un-bent.

 

- H8

Link to post
Share on other sites
  • Artists

If your use rinse agent in your dishwasher, I don't know whether that would end up depositing anything on the figures? I also do not know if anyone has tested such prolonged exposure to heat on Bones. You'd still have to immerse them in ice water for best results with the heat position resetting technique, and if you just had them in a pile in a delicates laundry bag or something like that, I imagine some of them would end up with deformed positioning from being crowded together. I guess the best way to find out is to try it. I don't feel comfortable putting non-food utensil items in my dishwasher, so that one I'm not volunteering for, sorry. :->

Link to post
Share on other sites

So...I mentioned this in my Wyrmgear WiP, but it's a crazy enough thing I figured I'd mention it here, too.

 

I used a jeweler's saw to remove some broccoli from a Bones mini. Works really nicely, except, if you go to fast, the friction is high enough to melt the plastic slightly. Melt it enough that it adheres to itself.

 

So I started the saw on one end of the broccoli, sawed clean through and out the other side, so there was now a thick line where the cut was, but the broccoli was still quite solidly in place. It was like some kind of magic trick.

 

The good news is that the plastic within the cut was effectively perforated, so it was very easy to cut it off with an xacto, but it was oddly disconcerting enough that I figured folks doing prep on the larger figs might like to know.

  • Like 4
Link to post
Share on other sites

You'd still have to immerse them in ice water for best results with the heat position resetting technique, and if you just had them in a pile in a delicates laundry bag or something like that, I imagine some of them would end up with deformed positioning from being crowded together.

I was thinking of something like the box/basket thing we had for washing baby bottles, but you're right about needing more attention for optimal repositioning.

 

I don't feel comfortable putting non-food utensil items in my dishwasher, so that one I'm not volunteering for, sorry. :->

That's a good point. I guess I had assumed that the mold release was something rather innocuous, but maybe that's not true. In fact, that seems like something where it would be good to get a confirmation statement from Reaper.

 

Although, now I have to ask: what are you using to boil your minis then, if not a kitchen item?

 

- H8

Edited by Hatemonger
Link to post
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Restore formatting

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    No registered users viewing this page.

  • Similar Content

    • By MoonglowMinis
      Here's a simple one for you.  Painted the Great Worm as a Purple Worm to the surprise of no one.


       
      More Photos Below the Spoiler:
       
    • By MoonglowMinis
      Couldn't find a better thread to post this in.  Has anyone else ever had mold grow on their minis?
       
      I have a set of bones that have been sitting around for about two year. They were super glued to a reaper base. Baking soda and super glue were used to blend the integrated base into the round base. There's also a layer of cheap craft paint as primer.
       
      These guys have been sitting on my painting table in a former sun-room for about two years. 
       
      I noticed the bases had yellowed a bit, which I've begun to notice on some of my other older bases using baking soda as a basing material. But when I checked on them I noticed small fuzzy looking orange tufts. 
       
      I can only assume this is mold.
       
      The only things I could think of to cause this are the baking soda or the water used to clean my brush before priming. 
       
      Has anyone else seen this?
       
       

    • By MoonglowMinis
      Hello again!  I'm back with an assortment of Bones that are serving as my Rangers of Shadow Deep solo party.  Decided I wanted a classic fantasy look, but didn't want to fall into the cliched green cloak look.  With that stipulation, I settled on a more autumnal color palette, and tried to keep this aesthetic across the entire party, without anyone looking like they were wearing matching uniforms.  I'm pretty pleased with the results and I tried to push myself with each mini.  What do you think?

       
      More Photos and Thoughts Beneath the Spoiler:
       
      I have only played a few scenarios of Rangers of Shadow Deep, and I'm honestly not sold on the whole solo-game thing.  But if the game has done anything for me, it has given me motivation to paint more and has given purpose to some of the things I already have painted.  I already ordered some extra gnolls and ghouls to meet the required numbers and will likely be showing off some monsters soon.
       
      Which character do you like best?
       
      What games have motivated you to paint those piles of shame?
       
      Feel free to share your own photos!
    • By Cicciopiu
      Hello Forum friends, I'm being quite productive lately  Gonna show you the most recent mini I painted: Small world Sophie.
      Ok, I have to say I'm in love with this chibi minis, I'm gonna buy lot more cause I find them so funny to paint!
      About the paint job, well, anytime I manage to paint Sophie, my color choice for her wings is always Violet (or purple if you prefer) and so why do not make my life easy and go for a complementary palette? So, purple and yellow. Easy peasy...
      Anyway, this is the result, I'm quite happy of her, I hope you'll like her too.
      As always every C&C is more than welcome :)



      Hi-res Pic 1
      Hi-res Pic 2
    • By golldan
      Worked on some critters. The leeches were painted Walnut Brown and highlighted in medium grey. Then I went over them with Turbo Dork - 3D Glasses. Then wash of Nuln Oil Glossy. Ended up with the slimy/glossy look I was trying for.
       

       

       
       

      Dire Crab, I was inspired by the color scheme that many have posted here, which i think they were modeling a Blue Crab which seems to be more green with many interesting colors in it. I painted the whole thing Ivory, and then glazed inks and washes up and tried to be careful on where I laid the wash/ink down. Some were just one coat, like Reikland Fleshshade for the edges of shell and claws. Also uded Army Painter green ink and Nuln Oil (for mix with green for darkest part on top of shell) for shell/legs/claws, Reaper Sepia wash for in-between colors and the underside. Only paint I used was bit of black at tips of claws, and Tropical blue watered down to thickish wash for blue on claws/legs.
       

       

       

  • Who's Online   14 Members, 1 Anonymous, 31 Guests (See full list)


×
×
  • Create New...