Loim Posted April 29, 2013 Share Posted April 29, 2013 I dislike miniatures where the bow is sculpted completely in line with the bow arm. Very difficult to add a string. Not a tough fix on metal miniatures really, just offset the limbs or the hand slightly, but on bones, Fuggedaboutit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRigger Posted April 29, 2013 Share Posted April 29, 2013 I also get frustrated with models that don't match scale wise - so there might be a cool spaceman or something and I put it against the rest of my collection and it is UberHeroicScale. That sort of makes me blue.... first world problems, eh? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonwirn Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 Are we talking totally hairless, like a Mul, or just without hair on the top of his head? Online store has 14 bald dwarves, including one without a beard. A dwarf without a beard! SACRILEGE! HERESY! Somewhere an elf is cackling with laughter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sumbloke Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 Are we talking totally hairless, like a Mul, or just without hair on the top of his head? Online store has 14 bald dwarves, including one without a beard. A dwarf without a beard! SACRILEGE! HERESY! Somewhere an elf is cackling with laughter. A bearded elf even. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buglips*the*goblin Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 Elves don't so much cackle as they do "tra la la ha ha" 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorpio616 Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 Cleavage showing on a female mini representing a otherwise armored combatant is one of my pet peves. I like female cleavage {a LOT], but on a otherwise well defended female, it feels too pandering. Generative organs not showing on a fig where they should be showing is another pet peve. An armored codpiece is fine but a loincloth of modesty grinds my gears. If a demon wants to guard it's 'starting equipment' or has adopted a reptilian cloaca so its scaly skin 'girds it's loins', that's fine, But a loincloth feel like a cave in to the fans {with admittedly deep pockets] who fear 'you know'. Any mini with only one pose, but needs pinning. If there is only one way to fit it, then sculpt it that way with matched sockets! I like sockets with multiple options, like the Warlord Lupine Ra{n}ger, but if the mini is to fit only one way, then the sockets should reflect that! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwarvenranger Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 Are we talking totally hairless, like a Mul, or just without hair on the top of his head? Online store has 14 bald dwarves, including one without a beard. A dwarf without a beard! SACRILEGE! HERESY! Somewhere an elf is cackling with laughter. He's been shamed to be sure. Kind of like Kharas 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Basilisk Posted April 30, 2013 Author Share Posted April 30, 2013 (edited) Cleavage showing on a female mini representing a otherwise armored combatant is one of my pet peves. I like female cleavage {a LOT], but on a otherwise well defended female, it feels too pandering. Generative organs not showing on a fig where they should be showing is another pet peve. An armored codpiece is fine but a loincloth of modesty grinds my gears. If a demon wants to guard it's 'starting equipment' or has adopted a reptilian cloaca so its scaly skin 'girds it's loins', that's fine, But a loincloth feel like a cave in to the fans {with admittedly deep pockets] who fear 'you know'. Any mini with only one pose, but needs pinning. If there is only one way to fit it, then sculpt it that way with matched sockets! I like sockets with multiple options, like the Warlord Lupine Ra{n}ger, but if the mini is to fit only one way, then the sockets should reflect that! Speaking of visible cleavage in armor, I don't like when clearly armored minis have pronounced boobs visible on or in their armor at all. Leather or plate, those two round mounds on your chest make easy targets for a sword stroke, and make the structure of the armor weaker. There's really no point in it other than to go "LOOK! BOOBS!" I like it even less when a hardened warrior not only has her tatas bulging out for the world to slice, but also has a belt wedged in her cleavage to hold her sheathe on her back, and has a built in bra in the armor to help them keep their shape for onlookers. And don't get me STARTED on the 'boob window'... Go hard or go home.. Edited April 30, 2013 by The Basilisk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahayford Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 Not to pick nits, but I would imagine a real warrior woman would keep her chest bound to prevent them from getting in the way and/or cause pain. Ask your wife if she would ever go jogging without a sports bra. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator TaleSpinner Posted April 30, 2013 Moderator Share Posted April 30, 2013 Speaking of visible cleavage in armor, I don't like when clearly armored minis have pronounced boobs visible on or in their armor at all. Leather or plate, those two round mounds on your chest make easy targets for a sword stroke, and make the structure of the armor weaker. There's really no point in it other than to go "LOOK! BOOBS!" Not sure I fully agree on this point as real armor for women does in fact leave room the breasts, even though it does add to the target area. The following are chest protectors used in the sport of fencing: - Women's Chest Protector - Men's Chest Protector To avoid injury to the soft breast tissues, the USFA requires all women to wear some kind of chest or breast protection, and even though the men's would be legal and provide less target area for the point to score on; I have never met a woman who doesn't use the woman's version for comfort reasons. Being constricted and uncomfortable in combat is not good; one does not need to bring distraction with you to the bout. Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowRaven Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 As a martial artist, I have to say womens fencing protectors are worthless in anything but fencing Kendo bogu provide a much better example. Both men and women wear the same style, they provide far better protection against hard impact, and are really fairly comfortable for moving in. More then that, they don't show anything, and are a reasonable form of armor. Still, I think the reason why chest armor on minis shows the chest, is as much to identify, at a glance, 'this is a female' as anyting. Not like the impractical chainmail bikini of legend. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackMann Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 The women's fencing chest protector would be fairly worthless against real swordplay. The boobcups have two problems. Any impact on the armor is going to hit the breastbone pretty hard. It's also going to guide any swordstrokes right into the center of the chest instead of out and away. A forward keel, while a bit silly-looking, provides the best protection because it guides attacks away from the chest. Yeah, something that squishes the breasts is going to be kind of uncomfortable, but still not as uncomfortable as being stabbed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowRaven Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 yup. It was designed for a purpose, and fits that purpose very very well, but there are reasons why armor evolved away from the hammered abs and pecs on a breastplate from ancient times into smoother rounder shapes. Even a one piece bulge would be better then defined breasts in armor, except for the, you know, deflecting the thrust up into the neck area problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pingo Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 (edited) Not to pick nits, but I would imagine a real warrior woman would keep her chest bound to prevent them from getting in the way and/or cause pain. Ask your wife if she would ever go jogging without a sports bra.A good point, and one that jibes with my experience of women who wear armor to fight (except for fencing). Effective women's chest armor is just as smooth as men's. Males seem to have a really exaggerated idea of how uncomfortable breast-binding is. It isn't at all. Ask any female 1920s historical reenactor. As one last point, some of us do not have wives to ask, but can offer our own experiences. Please don't make assumptions about the make-up of the members here. Edited April 30, 2013 by Pingo 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kay13 Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 Yes... sports bras, or the medieval/fantasy equivalent would be essential! Bouncing would be uncomfortable, especially in the confines of something unyielding like armour (probably similar for guys like wearing no support under those chain/plate pants). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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