Blackhawk Posted May 4, 2013 Share Posted May 4, 2013 I don't doubt it's moving as quickly as they can humanly make it happen. Yeah, I would rather them focus on getting everything shipped, rather than adding the additional burden of giving us regular reports of "everything is proceeding as expected". With the number of KS shipments involved (not to mention any regular shipments going out), that could add up to a significant amount of time spent reporting vs. working if you look at the total expected time frame for the KS shipments... While I'm not too bothered by the lack of reports, this isn't a good reason. 60 seconds once a week isn't a burden, especially if you include a 'wont' be able to respond to questions' clause. I've been buying Reaper products off and on almost since the company was founded. I trust Reaper. Not everyone who backed them, however, is as familiar with them. I think that some of them just want a periodic acknowledgement and 'still working on it, everything is going fine.' Something to give them peace of mind that the ball is still rolling. The silence that they've been getting has, I'm afraid, begun to give them the impression that they're being ignored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagiusDel Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 I think the updates will pick up once Brian, the all-knowing master of all things Bones KS and high master of the bonites, has resolved the Canada issue, which I'm sure is eating up all his time outside of shipping right now. And remember - right now, no news is good news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mistimp Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 Works for me, as I am also expecting my Traveller 5 package as well. I'm waiting on that one as well. :-) Significantly fewer backers, but also significantly fewer people doing the shipping. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ApesAmongUs Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 (edited) Have there been any reports of anyone receiving anything not in the vampire box yet. I know people have got extras of vampire stuff, but I hadn't heard if anyone had non-vamp extras yet. That would be an indication some kind of line had been reached in the shipping progress, since they would have had to have brought in new items that were not even in the shipping area before. Edited May 5, 2013 by ApesAmongUs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thatguywiththeface Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 It really bugs me that the Bones Shipment Tracking thread hasn't been updated in a while. Reaperbryan also hasn't posted in a few days. I hope that just means he is extra busy shipping 100's of orders every day. Wow even if they ship 100 a day that is only 1000 in 10 days. By the end of may that's only 3000/18000 backers fulfilled. Depressing... and I'm pretty sure I'll be in the last 1% to be shipped. Even more depressing. *sigh* I don't mean to complain. Just anxious I guess. xP lol it is NOT going to take reaper half a year to fulfill these orders.... it can't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowRaven Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 if I recall correctly, ReaperBryan said something like more than a thousand orders where going out a day right before R-Con so no, I don't think a half year is in order. Another month maybe, but not another five Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHetman Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 Have there been any reports of anyone receiving anything not in the vampire box yet. I know people have got extras of vampire stuff, but I hadn't heard if anyone had non-vamp extras yet. That would be an indication some kind of line had been reached in the shipping progress, since they would have had to have brought in new items that were not even in the shipping area before. I don't think that there has been any firm confirmation of any packages going out post ReaperCon. Now, I'm sure that they are shipping, just not to people who hang out here, which suggests that they are still shipping fairly simple pledges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagiusDel Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 Which, from what we've been told, accounts for 2/3 of the total orders. AKA, ~12k orders that are among the first few lots (Vampires, Paints, Cases, and Duplicates), which means that once we get word of Vamp + Add Ons flying out, we'll be quite near the end of the queue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trystangst Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 Near the end backer-wise, but not time wise. Each of the more complex order is going to take several times longer to pack and ship than a single vampire would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Bedlam Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 Obviously. The Vampire boxes are ALREADY PACKED; it's just a matter of sticking it in a mailer and tossing it on the truck.All the ADD ONS, though... ghod, EVERYONE has different add ons, and they're going to take individual time to pack and recheck to avoid mistakes. That's just going to be a hell of a lot slower. Still, we have most of May left... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eriochrome Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 Near the end backer-wise, but not time wise. Each of the more complex order is going to take several times longer to pack and ship than a single vampire would. But it is not complexity that is the issue. The extras from the vampire set actually have more options than the other optional mini purchases if I recall correctly. And since the whole vampire sets were packed at production they still need space for having the subsets available to fill those orders. Now space might be the issue as the bigger minis fit less sets into your sorting/storage space but that is really more about poor planning than anything else. For example, if they really had a substatital number of pure vampire orders with no modifications than those showed have been taking straight off the shipping truck through processing and out the door at the beginning of March when the vampire sets arrived. It does not make sense to unpack 4 trailers of vampire boxes into your warehouse while leaving several trailers of options unpacked. Doing the options into the warehouse for organization and sorting (since they need to be unpacked) and working the vampire sets right off of the pallet is the more proper way to do it. The ordering they have described is much more indicative of the optional ones not actually being there. Ask what is more complex a Vampire with Sophia subbed out for 5 different vampire subsets or Vampire with Sophia subbed out for the 25 Dollar Dracolich thing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dispatchdave Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 Near the end backer-wise, but not time wise. Each of the more complex order is going to take several times longer to pack and ship than a single vampire would. But it is not complexity that is the issue. The extras from the vampire set actually have more options than the other optional mini purchases if I recall correctly. And since the whole vampire sets were packed at production they still need space for having the subsets available to fill those orders. Now space might be the issue as the bigger minis fit less sets into your sorting/storage space but that is really more about poor planning than anything else. For example, if they really had a substatital number of pure vampire orders with no modifications than those showed have been taking straight off the shipping truck through processing and out the door at the beginning of March when the vampire sets arrived. It does not make sense to unpack 4 trailers of vampire boxes into your warehouse while leaving several trailers of options unpacked. Doing the options into the warehouse for organization and sorting (since they need to be unpacked) and working the vampire sets right off of the pallet is the more proper way to do it. The ordering they have described is much more indicative of the optional ones not actually being there. Ask what is more complex a Vampire with Sophia subbed out for 5 different vampire subsets or Vampire with Sophia subbed out for the 25 Dollar Dracolich thing. Poor planning comment aside (more goes into planning shipping than just how are we packing), the answer to your question (Which is more complex?) is (to me) "They are of equal complexity". This is mainly because a large determining factor in one's "complexity" is how big a box is needed to ship the order. The dracolich may need a slightly larger box than the Vamp +25 substitutes, but I doubt it would be a significant difference, especially if they have 3-5 standard sizes of box to choose from. -DD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eriochrome Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 (edited) Once you add anything to the basic vampire set the box probably goes up a size. A extra set of storm giants or an set of the optional mind your manors are the same approximate size so the distinction seems strange. The distinction makes perfect sense in the idea that all the minis in the vampire sets where done and shipped first then the additional mini options are arriving later. Maybe they are all sitting in containers around the warehouse but they should have shipped the pure vampire sets way earlier instead of having them sit around the warehouse for a month waiting on what? End of the day we can complain all we want but they already have our money so they know as long as we like the minis when we do finally get them then we will forget the slow delivery by the time we think we are done with these 240 minis and need more. I do not think that a daily counter and weekly few line update is to much to ask. For Example: Shipped: 9235 of 18000 Orders Currently Shipping: Vampire+Vampire Extras+Paint Sets+Cases Takes about 10 seconds. Edited May 5, 2013 by eriochrome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcktlnt Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 If I were a small company shipping out a very high number of packages, I would not indicate the x shipped out of y orders. Because, people will complain more when they calculate the difference between each posting. They now have a tangible number to throw at the company and complain about speed and efficiency. I do agree that a quick post of something indicating they are shipping would be nice. Kind of like what they did at the beginning. - We are shipping out a hundred boxes of the simple orders to test the system. - System is working and we are sending more. - Pausing shipping for reaper con. We will be shipping like mad until the end of May else Bryan gets chained to a desk and not allowed to go to Origins. - Shipping has continued. - etc. I wonder if they could state that last part of your example "Currently Shipping: Vampire+ vampire extras + ..." and so on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nymerias Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 I am too lazy to track down the post, but they have explained why they are not doing the "Currently Shipping: Vampire + vampire extras +...." and so on. They have multiple stations set up working on lots of things all based on box size. So they aren't only working on one kind of shipment at a time. They have used vague terms like "tiers of complexity" because nothing more specific can fit how they are working through the orders. I personally hate that they can't do the x out of y update. I hate it because I know I won't throw numbers at them and demand more. I think to do so is absurd. Yet people are already making up numbers to throw at them so I can imagine how many more would chime in when they had the real numbers. No one should waste the time on this, but I would like to sign a pledge saying I promise not to use these numbers for evil if you let me see them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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