Notsonoble Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 That's right, I missed it... I'll try again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notsonoble Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 Okay, this should be legal unless I missed something. It's a LOT of magic items, which seems kinda silly, but Nefsokar models just aren't that expensive. Army Total 993 points 1 Luck Stone (3) Troop 1 1 Senet Net'merew (123) -Armor of Courage (10) -Book of Tactics (10) -Cloak of the Dunewalker (10) -Magic Ranged Weapon (15) 1 Atifa (U) (52) -Canopic Jar (10) -Staff of Sokar (20) -Magic Weapon (15) 1 Khamsin Archer (40) -Musician (15) -Cloak of the Dunewalker (10) 1 Khamsin Archer (40) -Standard (15) -Cloak of the Dunewalker (10) 1 Khamsin Archer (40) -Cloak of the Dunewalker (10) Troop 2 1 Anwar (U) (49) -Armor of Courage (10) -Magic Ranged Weapon (15) -Magic Weapon (15) -Cloak of the Dunewalker (10) 1 Khamsin Raider (30) -Standard (15) -Cloak of the Dunewalker (10) 1 Khamsin Raider (30) -Musician (15) -Cloak of the Dunewalker (10) Troop 3 1 Sokar's Avatar (U) (189) -Cloak of the Dunewalker (10) Troop 4 1 The Sphinx (U) (127) -Cloak of the Dunewalker (10) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stubbdog Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 The gnomes have a pretty tough time doing it as well. With ten models and a bunch of equipment I am still only at 900 points. So, then I throw on a battle totem to get them to 1000. Bloodstone - 898 points +100 for totemTroop 1Herald of BloodLesser Bloodstone Golem x 2Troop 2Bata, Lancer Captain - Necklace of Worm Teeth, Armor of Courage, Book of Tactics, Magic WeaponGlaktu, Lancer Champion - Bloodstone WeaponBeetle Rider Lancer x 3Troop 3Greater Bloodstone GolemTroop 4Greater Bloodstone Golem Battle totem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TGP Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 (edited) ...throw on a battle totem to get them to 1000. Must try this with my Reven I do have enough models from the Overlords to do that list further up. Edit---------Try, try, again: Reven - 900 points + 100 Point Battle Totem Troop 3 Nor'Okk, Ettin Ogre Warrior x 2 Bugbear Warrior Book of Tactics Troop 5 Nor'Okk, Ettin Ogre Warrior x 2 Gnoll Archer Troop 7 Hill Giant Troop 9 Hill Giant Edited July 20, 2013 by TGP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ObsidianCrane Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 I keep forgetting the Totems! Now I need to go back and revisit some forces I fell short on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shakandara Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 Okay, this should be legal unless I missed something. It's a LOT of magic items, which seems kinda silly, but Nefsokar models just aren't that expensive. Army Total 993 points 1 Luck Stone (3) Troop 1 1 Senet Net'merew (123) -Armor of Courage (10) -Book of Tactics (10) -Cloak of the Dunewalker (10) -Magic Ranged Weapon (15) 1 Atifa (U) (52) -Canopic Jar (10) -Staff of Sokar (20) -Magic Weapon (15) 1 Khamsin Archer (40) -Musician (15) -Cloak of the Dunewalker (10) 1 Khamsin Archer (40) -Standard (15) -Cloak of the Dunewalker (10) 1 Khamsin Archer (40) -Cloak of the Dunewalker (10) Troop 2 1 Anwar (U) (49) -Armor of Courage (10) -Magic Ranged Weapon (15) -Magic Weapon (15) -Cloak of the Dunewalker (10) 1 Khamsin Raider (30) -Standard (15) -Cloak of the Dunewalker (10) 1 Khamsin Raider (30) -Musician (15) -Cloak of the Dunewalker (10) Troop 3 1 Sokar's Avatar (U) (189) -Cloak of the Dunewalker (10) Troop 4 1 The Sphinx (U) (127) -Cloak of the Dunewalker (10) Unfortunately, this is still not legal. Neither Monsters nor Constructs can take equipment of any kind. Further, Personal Equipment (like the Cloak of the Dunewalker) is restricted to non-Solider models. The highest I can get on 10 models (with no gear) in Nefsokar is this: Nefsokar - 827 points Troop 1 Senet Net'merew Tomb Guard x 2 Troop 2 Ammat Tomb Guard x 4 Troop 3 Sokar's Avatar Troop 4 The Sphinx ~v Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ObsidianCrane Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 (edited) Nefsokar 998 Points (Technically 11 models due the Totem) Luck Stone Totem Troop 1 Senet Net'merew - Magic Weapon Fatima - Canopic Jar, Familiar, Staff of Sokar Tomb Guard x 2 Troop 2 Ah'radivh - Magic Ranged Weapon Thoth Tomb Guard x 2 Troop 3 Sokar's Avatar Troop 4 The Sphinx I also re-visited the Sisterhood; Mercs At Heart Doctrine 997 points Luck Stone x5 Troop 1 Joeliyn, Leader of the Blade - Magic Weapon, Armor of Courage, Wings of Vengeance, Book of Tactics Angelic Warrior x 2 Troop 2 Callindra Silverspell - Magic Weapon Isabeau Laroche, Paladin - Magic Weapon Argent Knight x 3 Troop 3 Kyra and Lavarath Troop 4 Angel of Vengeance - Magic Weapon Edited July 20, 2013 by ObsidianCrane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notsonoble Posted July 24, 2013 Share Posted July 24, 2013 Unfortunately, this is still not legal. Neither Monsters nor Constructs can take equipment of any kind. Further, Personal Equipment (like the Cloak of the Dunewalker) is restricted to non-Solider models. The highest I can get on 10 models (with no gear) in Nefsokar is this: Nefsokar - 827 points Troop 1 Senet Net'merew Tomb Guard x 2 Troop 2 Ammat Tomb Guard x 4 Troop 3 Sokar's Avatar Troop 4 The Sphinx ~v Citation, I looked for this all over in the book and found nothing. Also, several items in the list say elite/leader only while the cloak specifically says any model. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shakandara Posted July 24, 2013 Share Posted July 24, 2013 I don't have a book with me here at work, so I'll confirm when I get home, but I'm betting you'll find it in at least two places. The first would be the general equipment section, where it talks about items that are used on the individual, troop, and force level. Items that are used on the individual level are restricted to leaders, elites, and solitaires (unless the equipment specifies otherwise). It is also in this section where it states that Constructs and Monsters may not use equipment, even if they are a leader, elite, or solitaire. I'd hazard that the second location you will find it is immediately at the top of the section for the Nefsokar-specific equipment, but it is possible that I'm mixing that up with the testing copies of the faction-specific info and the printed text from the book. As I said though, I'll confirm with page numbers tonight, unless someone else is able to provide the relevant info before then. ~v Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maredudd Posted July 24, 2013 Share Posted July 24, 2013 (edited) Unfortunately, this is still not legal. Neither Monsters nor Constructs can take equipment of any kind. Further, Personal Equipment (like the Cloak of the Dunewalker) is restricted to non-Solider models. Citation, I looked for this all over in the book and found nothing. Also, several items in the list say elite/leader only while the cloak specifically says any model. Warlords 2, page 113, top of left column: Nefsokar Equipment - Equipment for Nefsokar Leaders, Elites, and Solitaires. Cloak of the Dunwalker description does not include a statement to the contrary. Edited July 24, 2013 by Maredudd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ObsidianCrane Posted July 24, 2013 Share Posted July 24, 2013 And the prohibition for Constructs & Monsters is in the equipment section for character models. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shakandara Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 Yes, p. 51 (of the Warlord 2 core rulebook), 4th paragraph of the page, under the heading "Personal Equipment". The ruling about such equipment being restricted to non-soldier models is in that same paragraph as well. Thanks to Maredudd for confirming the section about the Nefsokar-specific equipment. ~v Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notsonoble Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 Thanks, we're just getting into it here, I actually intend on running a much less niche army anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stubbdog Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 This thread inspired us to go for a 10 model or less battle later tonight. Problem is I have made several lists I like. Trying to figure out which to go with. I figure to just roll a dice or something to decide. Here are some of the lists that I am trying to choose between: Darkspawn - 998 pointsTroop 1Witch Queen - Familiar, Crescent of Bile, Book of Tactics D'Khul, Bathalian - Familiar Thuusia, Pain Mage - FamiliarMastema, Demon5x Bathalian ExarchTroop 2Rauthuros - Flask of Hellfire ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Koborlas - 998 pointsTroop 1Vasyl, Rageclaw Alpha - Ironhide Ragon the Blooded - Ironhide Ragon the Blooded - Magic Weapon, Ironhide Luta, Rageclaw Shaman - Familiar, Ironhide 2x Rageclaw SentryTroop 2Takhi, Frostfang Shaman - Eye of the Ancestors, Familiar, Ironhide Ragon the Blooded - Ironhide Rageclaw Line Breaker x 2 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Kargir - 995 pointsTroop 1Talanka, Ogre Shamaness - Onslaught Bracers, Familiar2x Brugnungir3x Orbrag, Stonebiter Luck StoneTroop 2Mountain Troll ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Crusaders - 1000 pointsTroop 1Mother Superior Kristianna - Familiar Valandil, Archmage - Familiar 4x Lion's Lancer 2x FamiliarAlbatross AmuletTroop 2Sir Danel, Lion's Lancer - Holy Armor, Holy Weapon2x Lion's LancerTroop 3Guardian Beast of Aurellius --------------------------------------------------------- Reptus - 999 pointsTroop 1Broodmaster, Dragon Rider - Sword of Feeding, Troll HideT'Kay, Reptus Cleric2x Brood of Payanak Luck StoneTroop 2Uru, River Troll ChiefPakpao, Clutchling Caster2x Clutchling SpearmanTroop 3Dragon TurtleTroop 4Nakaraat, Hydra ------------------------------------------------------------------ Icingstead - 999 pointsTroop 1Boerogg Blackrime, FrostreaverNadezhda the White, Ice WitchFrost Giant SpearmanIce ToadLuck StoneTroop 2Svetlana, Frost Giant PrincessOga Snowpelt, Yeti ShamanFrost Giant SpearmanIce ToadTroop 3Frost WyrmTroop 4Frost Wyrm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humansquish Posted August 9, 2013 Author Share Posted August 9, 2013 I really like the top two lists, but I would go with Korborlas. Love Ragon with Ironhide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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