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I'm actually pretty terrible at listening to myself, so I popped on a few times yesterday (while waiting for paint to dry/GS to set up, so there's my excuse :) ). And I'm...obviously on here right now. :upside:


I'm jamming like a crazy person trying to get two minis done for the Halloween contest tonight. It'll be close (with how long the second GS'd ear on my surprise mini takes to set up to the point I can paint it...which I need to go sculpt like right now), but I think I can make it!


I'm taking pictures and scribbling notes as I rush along, so lots of WIP posts are coming soon!!! Just...not until tomorrow, lol!


I will say this, though:

  1. As much as I wanted to enter Yura, Skeleton Lord into the Halloween contest, he's simply TOO BIG to finish before then. He's like...five times bigger than anything else I've ever worked on, and it's a very different experience working on a larger miniature!
  2. Mr. Bones will be standing in for him instead, and I'm very happy with how he's looking so far! Also, I realized last night that one of the flatter skull bases will be PERFECT to base him on! Which will be awesome. :D
  3. GS is tricky to work with, but I've managed to make it behave through the application of copious amounts of water. This made it nice and very pliable, but it also means that the drying time was significantly increased. I've always had that problem with ceramics too, adding too much water. <_< The tail and ear I've made so far have turned out fantastically, though! Far beyond my expectations, since I'm TERRIBLE at sculpting (I'm much more of a pottery wheel kinda gal). Now I just need to hope I can make the second ear look at least vaguely like the other one, and I'll be in business! :D

Aaaaan I'm off again! *zoom*



--OneBoot :D

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A trick I've learned with my (limited) experiences with the GS is instead of copious amounts of water, I lightly coat my fingers (and any sculpting tools) in Vaseline, it keeps it from sticking to me and the other surfaces and allows for easier manipulation of it.

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To follow the earlier topic about mounting handles for foot- pinned mini, I use wine corks, sawn in half and glued to nickels. The nickels provide a bit of extra weight and stability. Alternately, the corks for things like whisky that have the plastic cap on one end work much the same way.

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Thank you for the advice on mounting handles, everyone! I don't generally have access to corks, though, since we don't drink. I've been happy so far with poster putty and a few different handles. My favorite so far is a heavy glass nail polish bottle; it's got a very comfortable shape, the top is small enough it doesn't block access to any part of the mini, and it's nicely bottom-heavy, so I don't have to worry about it tipping over easily.


@ub3r - Thanks for the vaseline tip! I've heard it, but I didn't have the time to go out and buy any for this project. I'm quite comfortable working with water, since that's what I'm used to doing for ceramics, but I'll give vaseline a try and see if I like it better. :)




The WIP posts for the two minis I entered for the Halloween contest are forthcoming, but I did post the finished versions in my Show-off thread. Feel free to go check them out, and please give me criticism and/or comments! Feedback helps me grow and keep getting better! :)


For now, I need to go put a hot pack on my neck/shoulder and do something not-painting for awhile. ^_^



--OneBoot :D


EDIT: I cut all of the talky stuff from the post in my Show-off thread and put it here:


I had SO MUCH FUN with these two minis! I tried a ton of new things on both of them, and I'm quite proud of myself for going out on a limb so much! (Warning: lengthy breakdown ahead of everything I learned!)

New things with both of them:

  1. Working with metal. The bases for both are metal, so it was interesting working with a material so different from the Bones I'm used to. Also, primer is interesting stuff.
  2. Speed-painting. I'm a very slow, meticulous painter, and while I tend to be happy with my results, I'm also frustrated with how much time I spend on each mini. So, this was a good thing for me. There's TONS of little mistakes and things that need to be tidied up, but I went ahead and sealed them both up just the way they are, because this was an important step for me. :)
  3. Actually basing. I suppose my lion-mage counts, but I didn't actually put him onto a new base. Mr. Bones was easy, I just glued him on. The rabbit, though, I had to painstakingly trim off the base in order to mount it on the base without it looking strange. I'm so glad that Bonesium cuts so easily! ^_^
  4. EDIT: I forgot to add that this was my very first contest! So that's another new thing for both of them. :bday:

New things I tried on Mr. Bones:

  1. Serious blacklining. I'd tinkered around before with blacklining, but I always ended up covering it up accidentally. With Mr. Bones, I basecoated him, then did all of the blacklining, and I quite like the result. I made it thick and heavy, since I was trying for a cartoon-ish look similar to this picture:
  2. Using "Clear" paints. In order to get nice, bright, cartoon-ish colors, I mixed one of the Clear colors into the orange and blue I used, and I really like how bright and vibrant it made them. I will definitely remember this for the future!
  3. Serious freehanding. Now, while I've done a touch of freehanding before, it was nothing like this. All of the bones in his hands and foot are freehanded, as well as (to a certain extent) the twists in his rope belt and all of the wrinkles in his clothes. Painting straight lines scares me to death (because I'm rather poor at it), so I'm glad I was brave enough to try them!

New things I tried on The Killer Rabbit:

  1. Using Green Stuff/Sculpting. This was the single hardest part for me between both of them, since I've learned from many years of ceramics that I'm just not that good at sculpting. Add to that the fact that the tools I ordered ended up being substantially larger than I expected, plus I'd never used green stuff before (it's both easier and more difficult to work with than I was anticipating) and I had kind of a difficult time with this. I'm extremely pleased with how the tail turned out, but the ears are only "okay" in my opinion. I thought I'd leave the original ears in place to give me something to stick the new ones onto, and I wish I hadn't, or at least carved the original ears down some. They ended up giving me no end of trouble, and ended up making the base of the right ear look really funky. The ears also ended up being drastically different sizes (I had too much putty for the right ear, but by the time I noticed, I had no time to remove it and make a new ear), but you can only tell from certain angles. Overall, it's not bad for my first try!
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Hope the shoulder/neck's not too bad OB, I find that while the tension of trying to hit a deadline may be great for focus, it does tend to make my neck/shoulder suffer afterwards. I didn't have the painting deadline last night, but spent three hours clipping tabs, filing, dripping and pinning EOTD figures while waiting for trick or treaters and I'm aching pretty bad today.

On that note, you can grab a bag of corks at a wine making shop for a couple of bucks. I went with the longer ones cause my hands are big and clumsy....

Also, I've read that heat will help speed up greenstuff curing, even just an incandescent light.


Great work, btw, I really liked the bunny.

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My neck's not bad, but my shoulder's telling me I ain't a-gonna be doing any detailed painting today, lol.


Heat is recommended in the instructions for the GS to aid curing, but it also said in the part where it tells how much of each part to mix together, that using more blue than yellow makes it cure faster and harder, while using more yellow than blue makes for a longer, softer cure time, better for details. So, I used more blue than yellow for the second ear, and it significantly sped up the cure time, thank goodness. :)


I'm glad you liked it! Not terribly good as a paint job, but it conveyed the story I wanted it to. ^_^ I'm curious whether anyone can identify the mini it used to be. :lol:




I'll start with my Mr. Bones WIP, since I've got more pictures of him. Bear with me as I took very few notes and am relying on memory being jogged by the pictures I took, so I'm not sure I'll be able to remember everything I did. :wacko: This post is also kind of long, since this WIP thread functions as my painting notebook too, and I like to have lots of notes. :)


I'd started him, oh, some time ago, and he'd since been sitting on my desk with only a partial basecoat pointing at me accusingly for neglecting him. When I started on him again, he had a basecoat of Sapphire Blue on his robe, and Stone Gray on his inner robe.


To this I added the crosshatch ribbon thing that's on the front of his inner robe. I started out with 1 drop Lava Orange + 1 drop Blood Red (plus 1 drop water as usual). This looked too orange, and was also too watery, so I added a drop of Glass and Tile Medium to thicken it a bit, and then pulled out my new Clear Red on a whim and added a drop of that. This was better, but still just a little too orange, so I added one more drop of the Clear Red (and I think one more drop of GTM, though I can't remember).


The resulting mixture was a beautiful, eye-grabbing reddish-orange. Perfect! (I'm totally reusing this if I ever paint up a fire dragon!)




I got a little messy with this, and I was debating whether to just tidy it up with the Stone Gray, or blackline, which is when I decided to go for a cartoony look with heavy black lines everywhere. I was already using the picture below for inspiration, so it seemed fitting. :)




For the lining, I used...Brown Liner (yeah, it can be used for lining as well as basecoating, go figure ^_^ ). Here's my first legit blacklining attempt:




It, uh...could be worse, but it's not too bad for my first time. I then tidied it up with some more Stone Gray, and decided that his outer coat needed to be a little more vivid. On a hunch, I pulled out my Clear Blue. I can't remember if I added 1 or 2 drops Clear Blue to 2 drops Sapphire Blue, but I think it was 2. The result was Sapphire Blue, only...brighter! Nice and vibrant.




I then decided that the gray under-robe was too light, comparing what I had to my reference picture, so just for fun I added 1 drop Brown Wash to 3 drops Stone Gray (plus 1 drop water), just to see what would happen. This actually darkened the gray beautifully, without altering the color itself (I'm not sure what this is actually called; the value? the hue?).


After poking around on the Internet looking for ideas, I decided to paint his little noose belt yellow. (I stopped taking notes at this point, so it's all memory from here) I think I mixed 2 drops Sun Yellow with 1 drop Clear Yellow, but it may have only been 1 drop of the Sun Yellow, don't remember. Anyways, the color I got was a lovely bright yellow. The problem was, after I applied it (several coats of it, since it had pretty poor coverage even after adding some GTM), it became obvious that this was NOT a good color for his belt.




Waaaaay too distracting, and because of the way the belt is situated, the eye gets pulled down and completely out and away from the piece (it only seems like I know what I'm talking about; I have a very talented artistic sister who used to talk about this kind of stuff with me all the time, so I picked up a few things). Even Husband agreed that the color was distracting. So I went over it with my Chestnut Brown; it's a lovely, warm, reddish-orangey brown that I thought would do nicely. Which it did.




(I will admit to also breathing a sigh of relief that I didn't have to keep dealing with the yellow; the stuff was taking a ridiculously long time to get anything approaching a decent coverage, and I was becoming annoyed with it)


I painted his skeletal bits next with I think Aged Bone. *squints at picture* Yeah, that looks about right. Heh, he looks like he's made out of white chocolate in this picture. ^_^




I realized that I'd neglected to paint the back of his rope belt entirely, so I took care of that too.




I chose Mahogany Brown for his shovel handle. It's another nice, warm brown, but more of a reddish one.




I debated for awhile whether to use Reaper's Honed Steel or P3's Cold Steel. The Honed Steel would be a bit more dull and would match better with the rest of the figure. On the other hand, Cold Steel is so...shiny!


In the end, shiny won out (are you surprised? ^_^ )








It was at this point that I sort of forgot to keep taking pictures, I was so engrossed in what I was doing. I changed his skeletal bits from Aged Bone to Pure White, since he looked too realistic and not cartoony enough, and I blacklined EVERYTHING (again, with Brown Liner). I also free-handed the bones in his hands and foot, and carefully blacklined the twists in the rope as well to help them stand out more. I tried to paint his teeth closer to how they look in an actual skeleton, and the result was pretty horrid.




I referred back to my reference picture, and realized that he just has lines for his teeth, more stylized than realistic, so I fixed that. I also finished his eyes, and tidied up some of the messier blacklining on his hands.




I had quite a bit of Brown Liner left on my palette, so on a whim I decided to "draw in" the wrinkles in his clothes with it, again trying to make him as cartoony as possible.




Here's how he looked when I submitted him to the contest! (I did stick him temporarily on his base when I took the actual picture for the contest)




I didn't have time to draw in the wood grain on the shovel, and I'd once again neglected the back of his belt, this time when I was doing the blacklining on the rope. His hands also look a bit odd, since I'd painted in his finger bones, but neglected to also paint in the long bones of the hand as well. The fingers on his right hand also have too many joints in them, whoops. :blush:


And here he is after I fixed the issues I mentioned above, and glued him onto his base (the base will be its own post).




Whew! Sorry this one was so long, I got kind of wordy in there. Plus, I just didn't feel like doing two separate posts for him, cuz I'm feeling lazy today. ^_^



--OneBoot :D


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OneBoot - It is really fantastic how good you've gotten at painting in such a short time. Your lining, shading, and highlights are really standing out as being very strong now. Anyhow, keep up the wonderful work, I enjoy seeing your progress and now I'm saying to myself "gee I want to be as good as OneBoot!".

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@ub3r_n3rd - Wow, thank you!!! :blush: But gosh, I'm still just learning, really! There's so much I'm still figuring out, or haven't tried yet, or that's simply beyond my ability right now. :upside:

@Cassu - Thank you! I think he's adorable too, which is why he's still sitting on my desk, instead of put away with the other minis. He's fun to have around to look at. ^_^

@Anne - Thank you so much! That's my hope is that each one is better than the last one, even if it's in only a small way. :)

Excellent work resculpting Arodin! I think your instincts are good to limit the amount of different colors you're using on him. It's easy to let a palette run wild. Using some of your main colors as accents elsewhere will help tie the piece together.

ok- random art musings, feel free to ignore or revisit when bored...



I really love how nice and smooth your colors are. I also like the soft blues and the bright orange- great contrast. I think the blues are different enough to stand out, without being too busy. You're doing an excellent job!

@Corporea - I'm sorry, I realized I never thanked you for the extremely helpful post you made, with the random art musings in it! I've never had any formal training in art (aside from an art class I took back in my first year of high school, just because my best friend took it), so your explanation and examples were very very informative! I like your suggestion of a cream-colored trim to the hem of his robe, I agree that it will help balance him out. I was rather dismayed when, after painting the crystal, he felt all off, though I wasn't quite sure how to fix it. Having the light border will help create that circle you were talking about, with his hand/face/scroll, with the cascade from the top of his staff to the scroll. This is exciting, I hope it all works out! ^_^ Please, feel free to keep sharing your art background insights with me, I do so appreciate them. I picked up just enough theory from my sister to be dangerous, but not enough to be truly helpful. :lol:


I actually have a couple of tiny little Hirst Arts skulls, but sadly they're too big to fit nicely on the base he's currently on. I also had a tiny little HA crystal ball, but that was also too big to fit, which is too bad because that would have been a fun addition. I'll consider transferring him onto a better base so I can have a little more fun with it, but that's a little in the future.


Thank you for your compliment about the smooth colors; that's something I've been striving for, especially since I love how velvety smooth CashWiley's paint jobs are, and I've been trying to emulate that aspect of his painting. :upside:




Sorry I haven't posted here in awhile, I've been busy living life in 3D. ^_^


Let's see, I think I was planning on talking about the bases I used next. I painted them both at different times, but I'm going to talk about them both at the same time to make things easier.




http://www.reapermini.com/OnlineStore/base/sku-down/74021'>They're all Reaper-made, and they're actually what gave me the idea to do the rabbit in the first place. That they also worked for Mr. Bones was simply a bonus. :bday:


I used Reaper's Brush-on Primer on both of them, and it was tricky trying to get it into every single nook and cranny. I'm glad they were metal and not Bones, since it was easy to see where I'd missed spots; I just looked for the shiny! I let that set for about an hour, just to be safe, and then covered them both with Brown Liner. This stuff is great!




I then went back over them both a few times because I missed lots of spots, usually inside the eye sockets where a bubble had formed and burst. Then I did a heavy drybrushing over both of them with Aged Bone, trying and failing to stay out of the sockets and nose-holes.


Rabbit's base:



Mr. Bones' base:



After this, I did a Black Wash on the rabbit's base, but when I did Mr. Bones' base, I couldn't remember which wash I'd used, and ended up using the Brown Wash, which I ended up liking better since it made the skulls look more real, but it was too late to change the rabbit's base.





Mr. Bones:



I went back over the eye sockets, nose-holes and teeth with a couple careful applications of the same wash I'd used on each one. The teeth especially got a lot, since I wanted to really bring out any definition from them that I could.





Mr. Bones:



Lastly, I lightly drybrushed them again with Aged Bone, just trying to hit the high areas, such as forehead, edges of the eye sockets, and the jawline.





Mr. Bones:



So, overall, pretty simple aside from the first steps of priming and basecoating. It was interesting working with metal, I like the heft it has, and how solid it feels when I'm painting it. If I could go back and change anything, it would be to make Mr. Bones' base look a lot more cartoon-ish, like he is. There's a pretty big disconnect between the two as they stand now, since Mr. Bones is bright and saturated, while the base definitely is neither of those. Ah well, live and learn. ^_^


Next up will be the killer rabbit! Also known as "my first adventures with Green Stuff!"



--OneBoot :D


EDIT: Sorry the lighting is so very different for each one, but like I mentioned before, I was painting them on different days, and since the main light I use for my pictures is on a flexible neck, it gets moved around a lot so I can't keep it in an optimal spot for picture taking all the time. -_-

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I like skull base. Glad to hear that you enjoy the feel of metal in your hands and hopefully when you can afford it, you can go shopping and explore the world of metal mini's. I think you'll have fun and I would recommend that you look at some Dark Sword figures. Check out their Critters as those are so cute and I think you'd be a natural at painting them up.

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Thank you for your compliment about the smooth colors; that's something I've been striving for, especially since I love how velvety smooth CashWiley's paint jobs are, and I've been trying to emulate that aspect of his painting. :upside:

Pfffft!! I mean thanks :) I don't find my painting particularly smooth, but I think we've identified my issues with hyper-self-criticism...


I've slowly been improving my smoothness by focusing on a couple particular things. One of the most vexing and important is learning the characteristics of different paints, which thin better, which chalk up easily, which won't cover well. Probably my biggest source of frustration while actually painting.


The other, after consistency/coverage is slowing down and realizing for smooth blends (at least for the way I paint!) I need a certain number of mid-tones. Since I've gotten my smoothest results with nmm (thanks to following Anne's recipe with many mid-tones...thus also taught me better blending in general), when I've experimented with different hues of nmm I've also tried adding and subtracting mid-tones. For a "3 value" gradient (basic shadow/mid/high selection of paint), I need at least one mix between each or it won't be smooth.


And the ironic thing is I love bold painterly strokes like Pingo and Cassu employ!

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I like skull base. Glad to hear that you enjoy the feel of metal in your hands and hopefully when you can afford it, you can go shopping and explore the world of metal mini's. I think you'll have fun and I would recommend that you look at some Dark Sword figures. Check out their Critters as those are so cute and I think you'd be a natural at painting them up.


Oh wow!!!! I just spent an hour having all sorts of fun wandering around in their site. Their minis are so beautiful and interesting! I've already added a couple to my list of minis I'd like to get and paint up as presents for people, and several more to my ever-growing wishlist of minis I want for myself. Thank you so much for the suggestion! :D


@Cash - Thank you for the advice on smooth blends!! That's really my next step on my painting journey, since it applies to so many other things I want to focus on, such as the ever-important deeper shadows and higher highlights! ^_^




I knew I wanted to use one of my rat minis to turn into the rabbit, but all of them already had paint on them, so I had my first experience with stripping paint using Simple Green. I stripped two of them (the other was the one I'd started painting as Cheesegear the Clockwork Rodent before realizing I should probably doing the conversions before the paint, rather than the other way around!) I wasn't sure what to expect, or how long to leave them in, so I stuck them both in a little bowl of Simple Green and put them on the counter out of the way, and actually forgot about them for about 24 hours. They didn't look much different on visual inspection, but when I pulled them out, the formerly bronzed rat looked really interesting!




He looks just like a little http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/92/Goldfluss_(Aventuringlas).jpg'>goldstone rat! I was sorely tempted to let him dry out and seal him up like that, but I've got plans for this little guy. I scrubbed them both off very firmly, but there were still some bits of paint left in tight spots like their ears and mouths, so back in they went for another several-hour bath. The second round of scrubbing did the trick, and I was left with two slightly stained but nicely stripped minis. Yay! Here's the one that used to be purple, which is the one I used for the rabbit:




The next step was to remove his tail, which was accomplished quite easily with my Xacto knife.




I also smoothed out where the tail had been touching his back.




I discovered later that I should have trimmed the base of the tail down more, but I'll talk more about that later. Time for Green Stuff! (this picture was actually taken much later in the process, but I'm putting it here because reasons)




My wax carving tools had arrived earlier that day, so I eagerly opened them up and discovered that they're...about 4x bigger than I thought they'd be. Blah!




Sigh. Well, I'll make them work somehow, but they're going to be rather difficult to use for such a tiny sculpting job!


The first thing was mix up a little ball of GS, and quickly discovered just how sticky this stuff is. I had a cup of water nearby that I used to keep both my (gloved) fingers and the ball wet with while I was sculpting with it, but it misbehaved quite a bit before I realized to do this.


I made a little wee ball of GS and smushed it onto where the bunny tail was going to be, and after finally getting it to stick to the mini and not to me, I went hunting for pictures of rabbit tails. I was originally just going to do a simple ball, but quickly realized I couldn't do this and have it look at all like a realistic rabbit. I also realized pretty quickly that I should have shaved off more of the tail base before starting, since I kept running into it. I ended up abandoning the sculpting tools pretty quickly once I got the GS to the general shape I wanted it to be, and did the rest of the sculpting with a sewing pin. I was quite proud of the results!


I also didn't take pictures at this point because I didn't want to get my camera messy, so stay tuned for pictures in a bit!


Next came the ears. Well, one ear. This thing gave me all sorts of trouble! I'd figured out by now that using water to wrestle the GS into submission helped a lot, but I hadn't realized how much it would soften it. It got pretty floppy toward the end of my sculpting, so I finally just stopped fiddling with it. The first ear turned out pretty close to the way I wanted it to, but it was too soft to try and put a fur texture on it, or to try to sculpt the second ear without risking messing up the first one, so I let it sit for awhile. I don't recall how long, but it was almost a day before it was firm enough that I knew I wouldn't mess it up, though it was set a little too firmly to take the fur texture as deeply as I would have liked. I used the sewing pin to do the fur texture, and the smallest sculpting tool I had, as well as a toothpick, to help shape the ear.


Here's pictures of the tail and the first ear (before the fur texture was added):








Now, for the part I was most worried about: making the second ear look somewhat close to the first one. I have a history in previous art attempts (primarily drawing and ceramics) of not being very good at replicating something that I make. If I draw one eye, the second one will look different and usually worse. If I try to make two bowls exactly the same, they will be different, no matter what I do. <_<


My trouble began with the fact that I started off with too much GS, so I had to keep pulling the half-formed ear off, cutting part of it off, re-rolling it, and starting over. I eventually got it close, so I stopped trying to get it perfect and decided it was good enough. This was also the day that it was due for the contest, so I had limited fiddling time as it was.


Something I hadn't counted on was the trouble that the original rat ears would give me. If I could have seen into the future, I would have chopped them both off. Because the angle of the first one was pretty similar to the angle of the ear I made, I didn't have too much trouble with it. This one, though...oh my gosh, it just wouldn't stop poking through the base of the rabbit ear!! :grr: I finally lost patience with it and chopped off a good chunk of it, along with some of the GS I'd already sculpted, and tried to just patch it up afterward. It looked...better. Not great, not as good as the first ear, but better.




Because I'd been more careful about my water use, I was able to put the fur texture on this second one right away because it wasn't too soft.


As I'd feared, the second ear did indeed turn out a different size from the first one, but it isn't obvious unless you're looking at it from directly behind and above, so I just shrugged and went with it.






The second ear is a slightly different color because I used more yellow than blue for it, since the instructions said that using more yellow than blue results in a faster, harder cure, which is what I needed since I needed it to be ready to paint ASAP!


For my first major GS conversion, not too shabby. Not great, but given that sculpting is something I've always struggled with, I was satisfied with the results. I'm happiest with the tail, and least happy with the second ear.


Next post will be the painty part!



--OneBoot :D

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