Bones Kickstarter #2 Discussion

[naponatom]

I just convince 2 of my friends to pledge 1 of each (except paints and case) plus shipping for US$ 573,00.

 

Just trying to do my part.

[klarg1]

 

Just a few random thoughts.

Several people (Reaper peeps and artists/sculptors) have teased about all the awesome new sculpts still hidden in unrevealed stretch goals. What will happen to these sculpts if they aren't reached/revealed? Will they be done in metal? Will they be secreted away until Bones III: The Bones Ultimatum?

 

And the rest of my thoughts disappeared... maybe they'll come back to me.

Good questions!

 

 

I'd guess that anything that has actually been sculpted will eventually make its way to some kind of release. Whether in Bones or metal is anybody's guess.

[Solauren]

I hope we see a pack of wolves/werewolves/other animals. I need a pack of wolves/werewolves/other animals.

 

I've been hoping for werewolves since the start of this kickstarter. So I'm with ya!

 

Werewolves! Female Werewolves!

[Pixel]

For me the point of Anhurians in the kickstarter are that Anhurians will be in Bones, cheap and easy to stock up on. Not to get enough replicas in the kickstarter to stock my army immediately. I'd rather see more mook models make the kickstarter than see more volume of each in the kickstarter.

[AZBarbarian]

Mr Bones with a sack, to steal the candy of all the little children! I really need to come up with some encounters featuring Mr Bones.

 

Think of him like Dungeon Master in the old D & D Cartoon!

[Shakandara]

It just occurred to me that since that "Heroes and Villains" add-ons include detachable bases, that means separate moulds for each section. That will likely increase the per unit cost of the retail price, won't it?

 

Maybe. In this case, I might even upgrade that to probably. Multi-part does not always automatically equal multi-mold. Sometimes (again, not necessarily in this case), it is possible to sprue the additional part(s) off of the main figure, and still cast it in a single mold cavity.

 

~v

[Carnacki the Ghost Finder]

 

It just occurred to me that since that "Heroes and Villains" add-ons include detachable bases, that means separate moulds for each section. That will likely increase the per unit cost of the retail price, won't it? It has been my impression that the more separate pieces the more expensive the Bones mini becomes. I could be wrong about this since it is just speculation on my part.

 

 

You might be surprised at how many Bones you think are 1 piece actually aren't. I keep finding new ones, like the skelton with round shield.

 

Hands up, who thought he was one piece.

 

*raises hand*

 

That's a good point -- but surely small pieces like that would be produced on a sprue of similar pieces, requiring the creation of only one mould, thus offsetting the cost.

 

What I'm wondering is why the griffon is eight bucks and the great worm is 3, since when I look at the two the size is pretty similar.

[Last Knight]

What I'm wondering is why the griffon is eight bucks and the great worm is 3, since when I look at the two the size is pretty similar.

 

Mold complexity.

[Doug Sundseth]

What I'm wondering is why the griffon is eight bucks and the great worm is 3, since when I look at the two the size is pretty similar.

 

 

Because plastic is nearly free in the quantity required to make either a worm or a griffon, so it's not size qua size that's the issue. The relevant costs are labor (greater when there are multiple pieces, for a couple of reasons), and mold amortization, which is significantly greater with more complex molds (since they're significantly more expensive to make).

 

Both militate for a higher price for the griffon. Heck, since it's a more detailed figure, it might have a higher reject rate, too, which could dramatically increase the price.

[Pingo]

Julie Guthrie and Bob Ridolfi are in the comments right now.

 

Ron Hawkins says there will be a countdown party October 26 at Reaper.

[Rich711]

I may have to start freezing all my Bones and attempting separation prior to painting from now on... just to be sure.

 

Because some of them, like the sword-and-shield skellies, are an absolute woof to paint in spots...

 

What do you mean, freeze them? Why? Are some of the figures pre-glued?

 

Also, I know the bones are different from resin in that they dont need to be primed, I intend to prime anyway, unless there is some advantage to not priming. Are their any other difference to working with the bones plastic than normal resin?

Edited October 15, 2013 by Rich711

[Hellcow]

 

 

That's a good point -- but surely small pieces like that would be produced on a sprue of similar pieces, requiring the creation of only one mould, thus offsetting the cost.

What I'm wondering is why the griffon is eight bucks and the great worm is 3, since when I look at the two the size is pretty similar.

While things like complexity of the mold and amount of material used are important in pricing minis I would bet just as important is what the manufacturer feels the market will bear for any given piece. I would imagine that, in the long run, griffons, being seen as a fantasy staple with a wider appeal, will outsell giant worms - thus the market (i.e. us) will pay more for them that they will for a big worm monster.

 

I may have to start freezing all my Bones and attempting separation prior to painting from now on... just to be sure.

Because some of them, like the sword-and-shield skellies, are an absolute woof to paint in spots...

What do you mean, freeze them? Why? Are some of the figures pre-glued?

Also, I know the bones are different from resin in that they dont need to be primed, I intend to prime anyway, unless there is some advantage to not priming. Are their any other difference to working with the bones plastic than normal resin?

Just don't use spray primer - the bones material reacts poorly with many aerosols. Brush on primer is the way to go (given the 2 thread that just popped up about this subject this past weekend). Edited October 18, 2013 by ladystorm
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[Pingo]

Yes, most Bones are pre-glued.

[falstius]

 

 

I may have to start freezing all my Bones and attempting separation prior to painting from now on... just to be sure.

 

Because some of them, like the sword-and-shield skellies, are an absolute woof to paint in spots...

What do you mean, freeze them? Why? Are some of the figures pre-glued?

 

Also, I know the bones are different from resin in that they dont need to be primed, I intend to prime anyway, unless there is some advantage to not priming. Are their any other difference to working with the bones plastic than normal resin?

Priming bones is kind of a waste of time. Instead just do a undercoat of whatever color you like, and don't water it down much if any. I usually do walnut brown and leave it as the shadow then put color wherever I want it.

I want the hd paints from the KS since I think they will work very well as that bottom coat.

[Laoke]

Several people (Reaper peeps and artists/sculptors) have teased about all the awesome new sculpts still hidden in unrevealed stretch goals. What will happen to these sculpts if they aren't reached/revealed? Will they be done in metal? Will they be secreted away until Bones III: The Bones Ultimatum?

 

I'd just like to go on record as saying Bones III: The Bones Ultimatum is awesome : )