Bones Kickstarter #2 Discussion

[KevinR]

What update is this? I cant find this one. However, first rule, if Bryan is yelling at you...YOU are wrong.

I think the "update" that unidentifiable meant is OneBoot's latest digest. I think this is the grumpy Bryan part, but honestly none of his responses seemed that gruff.

 

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Jeff Khoury 36 minutes ago

I am glad that they are cutting back the reveals on the expansions. The switch from 3 stretch goals for the complete first expansion to 6 each for two concurrently running expansions really soured folks, as well as doing serious and irreparable harm to the momentum of this project. While trying to get all of these unlocks for expansions, there has been exactly one full (non-trick) unlock for the core in the past millions dollars, without the next one even in sight. KS 1 was lousy with core unlocks during that same funding period.

The core is how you draw in backers. You make the deal just too darn good to ignore. Then, when you hook em, you get them with the add-ons. The problem is that while this core is great, the core for Bones 1 was PHENOMENAL. With all the add-on this, expansion that, and add-on to the expansion those going on, they just ignored the core. Remember, this KS started out gangbusters, and has just been flat ever since. With better core support, they could have ridden that momentum to ridiculous heights. I think Reaper just looked at the success at the tail end of KS1 and just assumed it would be the same, without really appreciating why there was a mad scramble to pledge.

It was because the core of KS 1 was just too good to pass up, and once people were in for the core, they were happy to add more. This KS needs more core support, and it needs it now if they want to build up crazy momentum again. Right now, the tail end of this project is trending way behind the tail end of KS 1 (despite everyone who says so being called a troll) and I'm pretty sure Reaper knows it.

 

Bryan Stiltz 32 minutes ago

@Jeff Khoury - interesting analysis. We respectfully disagree.

This Core set represents the same monetary value - if you measure value only in terms of quantity, then we welcome you to fond another way to get 150+ models for $100. Otherwise, we are offering $500 MSRP of models for $100, JUST LIKE LAST TIME.

Thank you for telling me what we assumed and didn't, and please do not put words in my mouth.

 

Bryan Stiltz 31 minutes ago

I should also add that at 68 hours to go last time we still had not even raised @ million... so your math and premise are already flawed.

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Bryan Stiltz 24 minutes ago

Ok - If people re done telling us how we have failed at Kickstarter and that 150+ minis does not in fact represent a good value... \

Seriously - if all you want to do is tell us that this @2.25 Million dollar project is a miserable failure, please go tell [email protected] (the CEO) that I was mean to you and you'll never back us again etc.

You guys wanted to see Bryanzilla... Here I am.

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[Sanwah]

So...little grey aliens...cool. Still on the fence...but we will see

 

Edit. The flying saucer may push me over into getting CE3

Edited October 24, 2013 by Sanwah

[Laoke]

Innnnnnteresting. Unsure if I need them or not, but I certainly like 'em.

 

I wonder if there are any homebrew rules for a XCom tabletop game floating around >.>

 

Also - definitely considering firing up the ol' Expedition to Barrier Peak with some of these figures <.<

Edited October 24, 2013 by Laoke

[Nocturne]

Well I had just been resisting CE3.... but that UFO............. The UFO and Robot was the things really keeping me in Mars Attacks at the moment.... if a giant robot appeared now....

[Flamehawke]

Outside of a select few things I am not much into scifi stuff. Though I hope more people like that addition. It looks very good for people who like that stuff though.

 

And that caught me off-guard. I was not expecting an update until morning.

[Bob the Inquisitor]

What update is this? I cant find this one. However, first rule, if Bryan is yelling at you...YOU are wrong.

 

 

Read what he wrote. Seems like Bryan over reacted to me.

 

EDIT: Nevermind the rest.

 

The UFO looks like it has potential.

Edited October 24, 2013 by Bob the Inquisitor

[ArthurDent]

SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!

 

Wow, Expansion #3 is coming along quite nicely.

[KevinR]

The wailing and gnashing of teeth on the Mars Attacks Kickstarter comments is cute. "sabotage"

[Bane Of Humanity]

Ok so, we have this AWESOME worm creature...then we get a suprise over the top Sophie....Best mini just by the concept art. (assumeing that a Tarrasque doesnt jump in somewhere....)

 

Then this...am I the only one scratching my head...I mean was there alot of call for these "greymen"? I mean yea sure Robots I would have totally understood and have even rooted for...but greymen?

Does any else feel thats a bit lack luster for the sci fi section? I dont know maybe its just me.

[Bane Of Humanity]

Innnnnnteresting. Unsure if I need them or not, but I certainly like 'em.

 

I wonder if there are any homebrew rules for a XCom tabletop game floating around >.>

 

Also - definitely considering firing up the ol' Expedition to Barrier Peak with some of these figures <.<

Well there will be now lol I do like that game though...

[Nocturne]

The Grays are all converting over existing figures by Bob Ridolfi, the saucer is new though.

I don't know about demand but getting existing figures into Bones is part of Reapers requirements.

[Bob the Inquisitor]

Ok so, we have this AWESOME worm creature...then we get a suprise over the top Sophie....Best mini just by the concept art. (assumeing that a Tarrasque doesnt jump in somewhere....)

 

Then this...am I the only one scratching my head...I mean was there alot of call for these "greymen"? I mean yea sure Robots I would have totally understood and have even rooted for...but greymen?

Does any else feel thats a bit lack luster for the sci fi section? I dont know maybe its just me.

It's not just you. They also don't come across as the kind of army that really requires more poses than, say, the IMEF marines.

 

If I had to guess, this is Reaper shoulder-checking Mantic into a row of lockers while they pass in the hall.

[smokingwreckage]

If I had to guess I'd say these were selling better than expected in metal.

[Bane Of Humanity]

If I had to guess I'd say these were selling better than expected in metal.

Oh yea see I didnt even know they had those in metal...dont search for the sci fi stuff often. but now that I think about it they would be cool for a Xcom tabletop game.

[KevinR]

 

If I had to guess I'd say these were selling better than expected in metal.

Oh yea see I didnt even know they had those in metal...dont search for the sci fi stuff often. but now that I think about it they would be cool for a Xcom tabletop game.

 

I'm a bit surprised at the push for the greys in Bones, though. 3 for $8 doesn't seem too pricey in metal, but I see the kobolds went from 3 for $6 to 6 for $3.50.

 

(They aren't in the top 50 Chronoscape rack.)