Jump to content

Matrissa's Bones: Yephima, Female Cloud Giant (77162)


Recommended Posts

Yephima is one of my favourite new sculpts from the KS1 set so I decided I would make her my second bones paint.
First I had to fix her left foot though - the last three toes and part of the left side were simply missing, so I used some liquid green stuff to create some new toes. You can see the result here.
post-8855-0-44235000-1382337532.jpg
There was also a weird, sinuous, flash mark along the ground between her left foot and the edge of her skirt where one side of the ground was a little higher than the other so I couldn't really file it off. Since I was mucking around with the liquid green stuff in the area anyway I dabbed it around a bit as a way of hiding the line.
Next I used some brush on primer to cover up the green stuff and then I used Nightmare Black and lots of water to make a dark blue wash which I coated her with so I could find all the details and see if I missed any flash lines. (Amazingly, I hadn't!)
post-8855-0-99148700-1382337533.jpg
Cloud Giants can have skin tones ranging from "Milky White to Sky Blue". I've seen several examples of Cloud Giants with the "Milky White" with blue highlights and also a lot with the bright blue of a hot summer sky, but neither felt right to me. In the end I decided to go with a soft grey-blue, closer to the colour of the pieces of sky that peek through the clouds in Spring or Autumn, like this:
post-8855-0-56457300-1382337539.jpg
So I fiddled with a few of the KS1 blue and grey colours until I found a mix I liked. In the end, the base coat colour I settled one was Aircraft Grey, Maggot White & Soft Blue in a ratio of 3:3:1
post-8855-0-20988500-1382337535.jpg
(I also used the same base coat on her skirts because I'm thinking I might make them "cloudy", so it seemed reasonable to start with the same sky colour as a base. Not 100% sure that is what I'll do but since I had the colour to hand it made sense to use it now.)
Then I took a deep breath, and started glazing shadow and highlights to her skin.
Prior to getting the Bones KS, all the mini's I'd ever painted were done in enamel paints with washes and dry brushing, so this whole "glazing" thing is a really new technique for me. I used it a little when I was painting "Vaeloth, Helborn Paladin" for the Summer Exchange and made the colour on his sword darker towards the sharp edge but that was all. This was going to be a learning experience.
My plan was to glaze down to shadow first and then back up to highlights. So first I mixed up a shadow colour using Soft Blue, Maggot White and Nightmare Black in a ratio of 4:1:1 and 6 drops of water. Then I started with her right leg ... and discovered I'd already screwed up as I got way too much colour off the brush and instead of barely increasing the depth of shadow I now had a dark blue blemish on the outside of her upper thigh. (Sorry, no photo!)
sigh.
So I repainted her thigh with some of my base coat colour and then I went online, did some research on the technique to see where I went wrong, and decided the problem was that I hadn't thinned it enough, so I doubled the amount of water with another 6 drops. And that was much better!
I started glazing down towards the creases between her legs and her clothing, and also areas of her left leg that would be in shadow such as her hamstring area, around her lower calf and her thigh where light would be blocked by her hair. So far so good.
While I was doing that research I also found some tutorials for faces so I knew to use the shadow in her eye sockets and along her nose, under her jaw line, along her neck where her hair blocks the light and all along her hairline.
Next I mixed up more of the base coat colour and made that into a glaze so I could go back over some areas that should have remained mid-tone but that I'd accidentally gotten some shadow glazing on. This worked well until towards the end when my mixed colours started to separate into distinct patches of soft blue and white/grey!
I didn't notice this at first so suddenly found myself layering on a colour that was far more "white" than I expected. I managed to fix this by mixing some straight Soft Blue with water and glazing it a few times over the odd spot and then I fiddled with this now separated colour to see if I could save it. I managed to determine that I could continue working with it if I remixed it with my brush, dipped the brush in water to remove the excess pigment after the mixing, dried the brush on a napkin and then used the remixed glaze. After that I could usually get two or three glaze passes done before it started separating again.
Then I created a highlight colour with Maggot White and Soft Blue in a ratio of 4:1 and thinned it for glazing. I expected that this mix would also separate after a while, and it did, but this time I was ready for it to happen and knew how to deal with it right off the bat. This I used on her right hip and the front of her right leg, her left thigh and calf and part of her left hip where light wouldn't be blocked by her hair, her left bicep and lower arm, the top of her right arm and her shoulder blade - basically anywhere the light should hit directly
I also used the highlight colour glaze on her face to emphasize her nose, cheekbones, forehead and chin.
And here's the result of my first serious glazing attempt:
post-8855-0-98426500-1382337537.jpgpost-8855-0-41469100-1382337536.jpg
I think it looks okay, for my first try with this technique. Any comments or constructive criticisms would be appreciated. ^_^

 

 

Edited for typos.

Edited by MatrissaTheEnchantress
  • Like 17
Link to post
Share on other sites
  • Replies 27
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Top Posters In This Topic

Top Posters In This Topic

  • Moderator

Glazing is something I'm trying to figure out myself, so I'm learning right along with you! *takes notes* I'll try the 2:1 ratio of water to paint when I start working on my current mini's shadows and highlights (which I've been dreading). :) That is a lovely color you chose as her base skintone!

 

I've noticed the separation thing happening at different rates depending on the paints I use; I keep a box of toothpicks handy to give a separating puddle a quick stir every now and again.

 

I have the same problem with my Yephima's outside toes on her left foot looking like they got smushed coming out of the mold or something; I'm not looking forward to trying to resculpt them. :zombie:

 

Your layers look very smooth, which is awesome! I agree with trystangst that the shadows could stand to be a little deeper. Also, I'm not sure if it's due to the lighting, but her face looks a lot darker than the rest of her in the picture.

 

Huzzah!

--OneBoot :D

Edited by OneBoot
  • Like 1
Link to post
Share on other sites

I wouldn't have guessed it's your first attempt, that's for sure. It's a time consuming process, but the results are worth it (to me, at least). You might consider going just a touch darker in the lowest spots, but then again you haven't done the highlights yet.

 

Ah yes. I've heard the mantra "Deeper shadows, higher highlights" passed about on the board. I was afraid of making her look "cartoony" though.... I favour the look of the more subtly blended style of glazing over the more bold style but I'll see if I can't push those things without "ruining" her. ^_^

 

Glazing is something I'm trying to figure out myself, so I'm learning right along with you! *takes notes* I'll try the 2:1 ratio of water to paint when I start working on my current mini's shadows and highlights (which I've been dreading). :) That is a lovely color you chose as her base skintone!

 

I've noticed the separation thing happening at different rates depending on the paints I use; I keep a box of toothpicks handy to give a separating puddle a quick stir every now and again.

 

I have the same problem with my Yephima's outside toes on her left foot looking like they got smushed coming out of the mold or something; I'm not looking forward to trying to resculpt them. :zombie:

 

Your layers look very smooth, which is awesome! I agree with trystangst that the shadows could stand to be a little deeper. Also, I'm not sure if it's due to the lighting, but her face looks a lot darker than the rest of her in the picture.

 

Huzzah!

--OneBoot :D

 

Yeah - I found several places that recommended the 2:1 for glazing. Also one that suggested shadows should be 2:1 for shallow areas and 1:1 for deep recesses, but I didn't trust that. Perhaps I'll try it now, to deepen the shadows.

 

Thanks for the toothpick tip! I'll try that next time.

 

Resculpting her foot wasn't difficult. The trick is to not try to actually create toes but to shape the foot right and then use a blade to cut lines to make her toes. Look at her right foot to see how it was done.

 

Well you certainly are treating her well, starting with a pedicure!

 

I love what you are doing with this mini, and thank you for all the documentation!

 

No problem. I like WIPs that give all the details so figured I should do the same. :upside:

  • Like 4
Link to post
Share on other sites

I've found that thinning paint is more of an art, you can get guidelines from how other people do it but it kind of becomes second nature. I use a two-step blotting process with paper towel and a piece of watercolor paper. The paper is very useful for checking transparency, because it's always a case by case basis.

 

It's hard to say 'always thin 2:1', as there are so many variables. Some pigments are very opaque and require more thinning than others, sometimes the paint is gloopy from age, sometimes you're painting something that requires more opacity (yellow or red over a darker color).

 

After a year I'm just starting to get a feel for it, and there are still so many new combinations that pop up, I learn something new from every project.

  • Like 3
Link to post
Share on other sites

She's so pretty!! ^_^

 

I think if you thin with some flow improver, matte medium or something similar in addition to water you are less likely to have the pigments falling out of the suspension. There is probably someone with much more experience than myself who can confirm actual ratios and details. I'm extremely fond of my Vallejo Glaze Medium for getting translucency, but I haven't sorted out what the Reaper equivalent is.

  • Like 2
Link to post
Share on other sites

Ooo! I might actually have some of that Vallejo Glaze Medium Bluberry! I think you gave a bottle to the offspring the same year you gave him the Armour & Fur L2PK. I'd totally forgotten about it though - will have to go spelunking in the "craft supplies" area of the spare bedroom.

  • Like 1
Link to post
Share on other sites

Another +1 for Glaze Medium. I got a bottle and stopped using water to thin pretty much immediately.

 

As for contrast and looking cartoony - I know how you feel. It's something I've had to struggle with myself. But you'd be surprised how far you can push it before it gets out of hand.

Link to post
Share on other sites

Right then.

 

So, I tried to take the advice for "deeper shadows, higher highlights" and touched up her skin. I still don't know if I really pushed it as far as it could go, but I agree it looks a lot better.

 

post-8855-0-07966600-1383057470.jpgpost-8855-0-83878700-1383057468.jpg

 

I've decided I want to colour her skirt in kind of sunset cloud colours - vivid pinks, purples, reds, even orange - and her armour white with warm highlights. We'll see what happens

Edited by MatrissaTheEnchantress
  • Like 8
Link to post
Share on other sites

oooh! A sunset skirt! I love the sky theme- great idea! I bet you could paint the skirt as if it was the sky itself. Skin is looking fantastic. I think Martin used some flesh mixed in with his blue for his skintones- that might be an option for highlighting if you don't want to use a cream or white. The shadows on the skin look very smooth! Great work!

  • Like 1
Link to post
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Restore formatting

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    No registered users viewing this page.

  • Similar Content

    • By Coffee Nerdery Beer
      Hi there all, I've decided to dive into the deep end with finally trying the scary world of OSL. 😄
       
      Feel I've lost the plot on this ... so any advice on how to proceed with this would be greatly appreciated! (Having fun, though, despite not knowing what the hell I'm doing. 😁)
       
      I'm including a "top down" view, which is where I'm most confuddled. That dark line down his arm which represents the shadow from the staff which sits between the source of light ... it just doesn't look right to me.  🤔
       
      So, I'm all ears for suggestions on improvements!
       
       


    • By MoonglowMinis
      Been a minute since I've posted a WIP, so I figure I'd roughly document my current paintjob.

      I'm running a 5e game with a heavy focus on the Shadowfell, and our most recent addition to the party is a native of that realm - a Hexblood or "Hexen" in our game lore. These dark fey are the children of hags - The Mothers Three - and are made from earth, blood, and stolen souls.

      Going for a dark but vibrant paintjob - blue skin, and dark clothing.


      After priming, I like to block in my darkest colors. It makes it easier for me to avoid missing a hard-to-reach spot later, but without worrying too much if I get some paint where it's not supposed to be.  This method also helps me to visualize and plan out my colors better.

      I was instructed to paint her with blue skin, black hair, and dark clothing. I started with the skin. I based with Rich Indigo and plan on working up towards Surf Aqua.  I'm hoping this transition from a more purple-hue in the shadows to a bit of green in the highlight will look interesting, as well as kind of capture the overall color scheme.

      I chose a few other colors to sort of represent that scheme and stippled them over the base - Rich Indigo, Deep Ocean, and Carnival Purple. I eventually want the base to look like rocky terrain, but wanted to avoid neutral greys.
       
      Pure Black for the hair and then set about base coating the rest of the mini.
       
      I wanted to avoid all-black or shades of grey in her outfit so dark greens and purples will be used to keep things more colorful. The tattered robes got a mix of Pure Black and Deep Ocean. The fabric wraps are Dark Elf Shadow - hoping to keep the purpleish greys.

      I also slapped some Deep Ocean on the gemstone on her staff for a pop of color - will reuse this for other gemstone details.
       


      The base got washed in Pure Black - will play around with some drybrushing later. Metal details also got hit with pure black to work up to some NMM silver.
       
      Settled on Ashen Brown for the bone details. The slightly cooler purple hue should help the bones blend in with the rest of the mini.
      Also hoping to use the Ashen Brown to highlight the hair without it looking grey.

      Not much to see so far - just some quick basecoating before work this morning. Hoping she turns out as I'm picturing and not just a garish blob.

      Side note - this sculpt is one of those earlier Bones sculpts that are quite difficult to pick out details.  I'm inevitably going to paint over some random blob and not notice until later.
    • By Pancakeonions
      Got my Reaper Bones V goodies a bit ago, and slapped some paints onto the Pumkinhead beholder.  I used Citadel Wraithbone primer, contrast paints, and Army Painter Matte varnish and...  months later it remains slightly tacky.  It's not...  awful.  But it's enough that if I put it away in a box with other minis, I'm afraid it won't mix well.  I've left it out in the sun for a day, thinking that might 'bake' the stickiness out of it...  It did not.  
       
      I got Reaper Bones because I figured I could paint, varnish and throw into a box with all my prepainted minis.  Some of my older bones remain slightly tacky too.  But I figured that with this new round of Reaper Bones, they would have got that figured out.  I've painted up the undead giant, but not yet varnished him and I'm afraid to!
       
      I've read the various Reaper Bones help threads, many of which are very old (and one sent me to Facebook, though it looks like it's no longer available.  I don't do social media anymore, so not sure?). 
       
      Does anyone have any advice to help a guy out?  I'm pretty sure I shook my rattlecan varnish adequately.  I do live in western San Francisco and wonder if the humidity (fog, it's often cool and misty regardless of the season) may affect this.  I try to wait until the weather is clear.
       
      What are you doing to keep your Bones stickiness-free?  Any advice you might have would be helpful.
    • By KruleBear
      This one has been on the desk for awhile to receive paint as there was extra on the palette. I decided to finish him off last night. Added highlights to the cloak and skulls. Shaded everything, but the cloak with Army Painter Dark Tone. I didn’t add any highlights or shading beyond the basics as it isn’t a great cast. But, I think it turned out great for the toy box. 


       
       

    • By Lidless Eye
      Here's a collection of the second batch of finished minis I have from Bones V.


      Party like a Barty.


       

       
       

       
       

       

       

      Yoho, a Pirate's unlife for me:


       

       
       
      Draugr...I mean, Rune Wights.


       

       

       

       

       

       

      They're not sure why they've been typecast as Thieves:


       
       
      "What do your Elven eyes see?"


       
       
       
      Kobolds, the only thing as dangerous as a Giant Rat in a starter dungeon.
       

       
       
      Under the Sea.
       

       

       

       
       





  • Who's Online   17 Members, 1 Anonymous, 27 Guests (See full list)

×
×
  • Create New...