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Any experience with Folk Art Clearcote extra thick glaze?

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I've read a lot that people like to put a glossy coat on first for strong protection, and then cover with a matte finish to reduce the shine. (It seems clear to me that Testor's Dullcote is the clear favorite for the matte finish. I've recently ordered a can of this.) I plan to handle the minis I paint a fair bit, so this seems like a good idea to me.

 

I was in a craft store recently and wanted to get a gloss coat and ended up picking up a can of Folk Art Clearcote extra thick glaze and a can of Folk Art Clearcote Acrylic Sealer Matte finish. (At the time I knew Testor's was the favorite, but hadn't found any in store.) Both Folk Art cans claim to be good on minis, and I've seen the brand name tossed about in a few contexts, so I chose these. Now I'm second guessing the "extra thick glaze" as it sounds like it might be a bit heavy.

 

I was wondering if people had any experience with this, and/or any comments, opinions, or advice to share. If people don't think its a good idea to use the folk art, is there any consensus on the best product for gloss coat? My local store happens to have the Testor's gloss coat in stock, but not the Dullcote.

 

 

Thanks!

 

 

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Okay, I'm having a problem trying to buy Testors Dullcote, and was wondering if anyone's bought a can recently.

 

I ordered a can from Walmart for store pickup, because I went there and couldn't find the Testors products on the shelves. Remembering having seen pictures of the can online with the word "Dullcote" on the front of the main label, I decided no to take it when they gave me a can that just read "Clear Coat" --- no indication of dull or gloss, with a blue label. The entire product was wrapped in "store pickup" labels, so I had to peel those off to even see that much. I didn't peel the label off the cap. Then the lady said she thought those products were in "toys". They were, so I went over there and found two rows, one labeled "gloss coat", and one labeled "dull coat" --- and I thought this was walmart being sloppy! I on the caps, I saw that one can actually had a "dull coat" sticker and the other had a "gloss coat" sticker, and I they didn't even appear to be part of the packaging, so I didn't realize these were the actual sku barcode stickers --- again, I thought ... the two cans have the same label, but different stickers. This is just someone being sloppy, right? I had hoped the Testors website would show me a can with the proper labeling, but no... the picture for the product is just a white circle ... or a clear circle on a white background, since it's supposed to be a clear coat. ;-).

 

So I didn't buy anything, and came home, and did a websearch, and finally found this at boargamegeek.com:

http://boardgamegeek.com/thread/783441/the-new-testors-dullcote-packaging-or-how-to-confu

 

 

I just thought I'd write to see if anyone's had experience with this. I guess I'll go back and pick up the dull coat can, and give it a shot.

 

Edit: Actually, now that I know the dull coat and gloss coat look exactly the same, it may be that I was wrong in thinking the local hobby shop (we have a Hobbies Etc) was out of the dull coat. The "dull coat" row was the only empty row, but there were a bunch of loose cans that just said "clear coat" on them... of course I didn't know I need to be looking for a sticker on the top. I guess I'll see if I can support them. Especially since they've started selling a broader line of really good modern boardgames. This labeling idea may be in effort to save cost on the part of Testors, but it's a terrible idea... I mean... what if someone in the store switched caps on the products?? What if I accidently switched caps? (Of course I know I need to mark the cans... but still...)

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I couldn't find dullcote either, and ended up getting Vallejo Matte Varnish, which I'm very happy with. Takes away the shine really well. Maybe I'll have another look later, so thanks for the labelling information :D

 

I havn't used Folk Art Glaze.. I use an actual "Gloss Varnish" to topcoat, then brush on matte varnish after to take the shine off the non-metal parts. I don't really think there is a lot of difference between gloss varnishes. You're going to matte overtop and get rid of the shine, you just want something that isn't going to yellow. The purpose of a gloss coat is to be a tough layer to prevent damage to the paint underneath. If there is a big advantage to using one gloss coat over another, I don't know what it is. Just make sure it says "non-yellowing" on it and you should be good to go.

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I couldn't find dullcote either, and ended up getting Vallejo Matte Varnish, which I'm very happy with. Takes away the shine really well. Maybe I'll have another look later, so thanks for the labelling information :D

 

I havn't used Folk Art Glaze.. I use an actual "Gloss Varnish" to topcoat, then brush on matte varnish after to take the shine off the non-metal parts. I don't really think there is a lot of difference between gloss varnishes. You're going to matte overtop and get rid of the shine, you just want something that isn't going to yellow. The purpose of a gloss coat is to be a tough layer to prevent damage to the paint underneath. If there is a big advantage to using one gloss coat over another, I don't know what it is. Just make sure it says "non-yellowing" on it and you should be good to go.

 

It is "non-yellowing" -- I noticed that on the can when I bought it, but didn't realize that I should be looking for it in the first place. Good to know!

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