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About two years ago, Joy (aka MamaGeek) approached me about sculpting the Visitation Scene from the Bible for her. This is the scene where Mary, having just conceived Jesus, goes to see Elizabeth who is pregnant with John the Baptist. At their meeting, John leaps in Elizabeth's womb, and Mary, filled with joy, sings the Magnificat. You can find the whole story in Luke, Chapter 1. At the time, I turned her down, as I really wasn't ready to tackle human anatomy yet. Over the past few years, we've discussed it a couple of times, but I never felt ready yet. This past November, I got an e-mail from Joy's mother who wanted to buy my sculpting services for Joy as a Christmas present. I agreed and created a rough sketch for Joy's mom to give Joy at Christmas. After Christmas, Joy an I put our heads together and figured out the details, poses, etc.

 

If you read Luke, you will note that Mary is only a week or two pregnant (depending on how long it took her to get to Elizabeth). Elizabeth is between 6 and 7 months along. Elizabeth is an older woman, probably in her 50's or 60's. We decided that Elizabeth will be holding her belly after John's jump and smiling. Mary will be looking heaven-ward, arms stretched out, a look of joy on her face as she sings to the Lord.

 

We also decided that these would be 54mm sculpts, which will be a first for me.

 

Here are the finished armatures:

 

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I created them using the template Patrick K. has on his website (thanks, Patrick). Each was made in three parts of brass rod and then soldered together (I know, not exactly necessary to solder, but I like doing it and it is stronger than GS joints).

 

I'll be posting WIP shots of this project as I go along. If there is anything in particular that you want extra pictures of or step-by-step pictures, let me know.

 

Have a great day,

 

Andy

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I did a Google search- I like this one:

 

 

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At first I was thinking Bernini's Ecstasy would be a good facial expression, but it's not quite right. This will be fun to watch!

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I saw the picture and then I saw the bottom of Corpore's post that says "oh, you mean I can put stuff here?  Cool!  not to think of something..."  and it cracked me up.

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I saw the picture and then I saw the bottom of Corpore's post that says "oh, you mean I can put stuff here?  Cool!  not to think of something..."  and it cracked me up.

 

:lol:

 

That just got the beverage spew award for today!

 

 

Hopefully (if i'm feeling well), I'll have new updates up tonight or tomorrow.

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Rib Cage and Spinal Column:

 

The first step for me is to sculpt the shape of the rib cages and spinal columns.  I don't really need to do the spinal column, but I have found that adding it significantly strengthens the armature.  I spent about 20 minutes on each figure getting the rib cage shape right.

 

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Pelvises:

 

I hate sculpting pelvises!  There are several important points to them, and their 2D renderings in anatomy references never look like they should be able to make the 3D object.  I put a little over an hour into the pelvises on both models, working to get all the key points right.

 

Mary:

 

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Elizabeth:

 

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Knees and Ankles:

 

Next, I sculpted their knees and ankle bones.  This step is important for me as I use these points to get the musculature and shapes of the feet and legs right.

 

 

Mary:

 

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Elizabeth:

 

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Next, I sculpted the feet, but I took a lot of step-by-step photos, so it will take longer to write-up than I have time for tonight.  I'll try to get that put together tomorrow night.

 

Questions and comments welcome.

 

Have a good night,

 

Andy

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Wow, that is so cool! I didn't know you actually build their skeleton underneath. It is very enlightening to watch this unfold.

 

Don't know about everyone else, but I do:;):   I'm sure that with more experience, I'll be able to cut a few more corners, but for now it is very important for me to establish the correct anatomy from the skeleton up so that I get everything right.  I think this is an issue a lot of beginning sculptors run into; they try to do too much at once without laying down a good foundation.

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It's been a long time since my last post.  I've been very busy though and took pictures along the way; I just haven't had time to post until tonight.

 

Feet:

 

Someone on here (can't remember who) asked me to give details on how I do feet, so I took step-by-step photos.

 

1. Figure out the proportion of the foot.  The length of the foot from heel to toe should be about as long as from the ground to slightly under mid shin.  I mark the foot boundaries on the cork and then take an appropriate amount of putty, roll it to the rough shape, and press it into place. I should note that I also pulled the armatures up by about a mm to make room for the soles of their sandals

 

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2. Invariably, I always put too much putty down at first, but that is good because it allows me to pin the foot down as I cut away excess.

 

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3. I then spend a lot of time getting the shape of the foot right, smoothing it with my clay shapers.

 

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4. I cut the sole of the sandals in under the foot shape.

 

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5. Once the feet are shaped, I cut in the toes.  Toes are proportionally in three equal sections: the big toe, the two center toes, and the two outer toes.  Given this, I first use a sharp edged tool to cut the toes in three equal parts.

 

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6. I cut the center and outer sections into two toes each.

 

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7. Finally, I press in the nails and spend time detailing the toes and making sure that the feet are right.  You'll not that I left a hole at the base of the big toe for the sandal thong to come through later.

 

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One thing you may note here is that the feet look too short and chubby.  Part of that is the foreshortening in the photos.  The other part is an optical illusion caused by the lack of leg.  They'll look correct once I get the legs on.  This is a good example of why it is important to know anatomical proportions and to stick to them.  If I were to sculpt by gut feel here, I'd likely sculpt them too large and then have to rework them later.  Measuring first saves me from that.

 

Next, I'll post on the sculpting of the legs.

 

Andy

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Legs

 

I sculpted the legs from the bottom up, first the calves and ankles, then the thighs, starting with the back of the thighs and finishing with the front and the knees.  Note that I tend to make legs that will be covered with cloth a bit small, as the sheet of cloth I lay down will add dimension and I don't want it to get too large.  If I made them the perfect size now, they'd look bulky when I put the dress on.  I also focus most on the parts I know will show through when I add their skirts.

 

Here are the photos in progression:

 

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(Looking at the above photo, I think I may need to add a bit more mass to her right (left in the picture) thigh.  I'll add that when i underpin the dress.)

 

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Note that I haven't added the buttocks yet, which always makes legs look wrong.  I'll detail that when I show off the torso sculpting later (I'm currently about 3/4 done with the torsos).

 

Comments and questions welcome.

 

Andy

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Wow, that is so cool to watch, especially reading your commentary with it. You are reinforcing my confidence that you're the right person for the job! And it's actually kind of exciting not knowing when the next update I'll come along. Each one becomes an anticipated, but unexpected surprise!

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What a wonderful thread.  As someone who is just jumping into sculpting figures, this is very informative.  I especially appreciate the cutting toes section.  Doing it 3 pars makes my feet look more human than primate.

 

.... and by "my feet" I mean the figure I'm sculpting, not MY feet.  There are nothing wrong with my feet - I just don't like wearing sandals.

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