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This WIP is to show how I make my fantasy maps. I'm currently working on the world map for the PBP game hosted here "Boldly into Darkness Go" Run by Last Knight. It has been a few years since i've attempted this sort of project so I will be showing my practice work also.

 

That said, the materials I'm useing are as follows 

 

Hunt Drawing Nib #104 with handle

Hunt #102 Nib

Hunt #103 Maping Nib

Speedball B-5 1/2 Ball Tip Nib With Handle

Speedball C-3 Nib

Dr. Ph Martin's Bombay Black India Ink

Speedball Pigmented Acrylic Ink in silver & Blue

Artist's Loft 140lb Watercolor paper 9"x12"

Windsor & Newton Cotman Watercolors

Grumbacher Acadamy Watercolors

 

 

 

I prefer dip pens over regular pens for this type of project as they require you to slow down and to be certain of your strokes. Every couple of strokes (depending on the nib used) I have to refill the nib with ink. Some of these nibs can give me a finer line than I can get with even a technical pen. These pics are from my practice last night. I haven't used my dip pens in years so I have to get reaquainted with them. This is only one page but i have taken closeups of each section of practice on the page. Keep in mind the lettering I was attempting was not calligraphy, just letters like I would write them now.

 

 

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These are some of the Pen & Nibs I'm using

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The inks and watercolors I'm using...

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Here is an overview of what I had practiced last night. I only worked on this for an hour, not icluding cleanup time.

 

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My first attempts at mountains. I still have some work to do on these as I am not thrilled with how these came out. These were done with 3 different sized nibs to see how each would work.

 

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These are the town/ capitol markings with some names below. I wanted to see how small I could actually make these. The tallest one in the middle is about 1/2" tall. As you can see I'm still working out how I want these too look but they are coming along.

 

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Here are some of the smaller mountains. These are closer to the size I'll be using. There are also some forst attempts at trees to demarcate forests. The mounds on the bottom are rolling hills used to show areas that aren't fully mountains but aren't flat pains either.

 

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So that's where I'm at right now. 

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Very nice. I always love seeing how people do things like that. I am also a bit of a cartography junkie. I'm currently working on a map for a one shot dungeon crawl that can develop into more. I have the basic map drawn, now I'm adding the legend. 

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Ooooh! Nice find! The Outline with trunks might just work out best for this.

 

I did a sktech of everything to make sure I had everything where it was supposed to be. I'll post that as well once I figure oout where I saved it.

 

 

EDIT: I actually had read that thread before I started this....

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I do think that outline forest with tree trunks is the way to go.

 

If you take a look at the thread it shows different shading techniques for hills and mountains as well. Another suggestion I would make is to leave a clear distinction between hills and mountains by shading the mountains but leaving the hills unshaded.

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The difference between my rounded hills and pointy mountains I thought would be obvious which is which but I can look into not shading one. I will be adding color to the various areas as well so Drak browns for mountains, greens for forests, Maybe sepia for desert areas, etc. Maybe my mountains and forests will look better once I color them. I can also use different colors for the outlines of areas. Perhaps use black for mountains and sepia for hills?

 

Keep in mind, that so far I have spent 1 comercialless episode of Voyager (about 43min?) on this. I plan to do some more practice tonight after dinner & work.

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Oooo...maps! Must...resist...starting...(yet) another...project...  ^_^

 

I like the third set of mountains the best. The thin stroke followed by a thick stroke just works. Nice hills and towns, too. I'm a fan of the outline with trunks approach to forests, though I especially like Shelly Shapiro's forests. She added additional tree details within the outline.

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Great Idea;

have to mark this as a further resource to ensure I come back

and learn something :)

Thanks for sharing.

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Perhaps use black for mountains and sepia for hills?

 

That in addition to the shading/not shaded is a great idea.

 

How big of an image can you scan or photograph? Your practice sheet can serve as the crash-test-dummy to get that figured out as well. It would suck to make a great big map all inked up and then find you can't share it because: too big.

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My personal scanner can only do 8.5" x 11" BUT, I can scan poster size at fedex/kinkos for a small fee. I've done it before. I may even look into having prints made for the group if it turns out well.

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So! a little more practice tonight. I also added more details to my first post. I went to Hobby Lobby today and picked up a couple extra nib holders tonight and another well pallet. Tonight I practiced my mountains and attempted the outline forest. The forest turned out well enough, some color will add to it later. The mountains on the other hand are still a work in progress. I've tried Isometric styles but they didn't turn out well at all. I did attempt smaller rivers as well which I think will look great in blue ink. Any suggestions on how to adjust the mountains are welcome. (of if I'm crazy and they look fine let me know).

 

Here's a pic of todays work:

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What about steeper mountains?

 

More craggy?

 

With the occasional volcano?

 

I personally like them not shaded at all.

 

Like the bottom ones, very olde school.

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So! a little more practice tonight. I also added more details to my first post. I went to Hobby Lobby today and picked up a couple extra nib holders tonight and another well pallet. Tonight I practiced my mountains and attempted the outline forest. The forest turned out well enough, some color will add to it later. The mountains on the other hand are still a work in progress. I've tried Isometric styles but they didn't turn out well at all. I did attempt smaller rivers as well which I think will look great in blue ink. Any suggestions on how to adjust the mountains are welcome. (of if I'm crazy and they look fine let me know).

 

Here's a pic of todays work:

0604142127_zpstsomboca.jpg

 

You need to flip this shading around to make it look right. In the picture above everythin above the 'snow line' is shaded dark but :upside: everything below the snow line is stark white.

 

 

Sumthin' ain't right. :ph34r:

 

Compare with these from the cartographer's guild thread:

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I think the key with this type of shading is that each peak is half dark / half light.

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So! a little more practice tonight. I also added more details to my first post. I went to Hobby Lobby today and picked up a couple extra nib holders tonight and another well pallet. Tonight I practiced my mountains and attempted the outline forest. The forest turned out well enough, some color will add to it later. The mountains on the other hand are still a work in progress. I've tried Isometric styles but they didn't turn out well at all. I did attempt smaller rivers as well which I think will look great in blue ink. Any suggestions on how to adjust the mountains are welcome. (of if I'm crazy and they look fine let me know).

 

Here's a pic of todays work:

0604142127_zpstsomboca.jpg

 

You need to flip this shading around to make it look right. In the picture above everythin above the 'snow line' is shaded dark but :upside: everything below the snow line is stark white.

 

 

Sumthin' ain't right. :ph34r:

 

Compare with these from the cartographer's guild thread:

6835d1223129032-%5Baward-winner%5D-tutor

I think the key with this type of shading is that each peak is half dark / half light.

6832d1223128900-%5Baward-winner%5D-tutor

 

 

 

So! a little more practice tonight. I also added more details to my first post. I went to Hobby Lobby today and picked up a couple extra nib holders tonight and another well pallet. Tonight I practiced my mountains and attempted the outline forest. The forest turned out well enough, some color will add to it later. The mountains on the other hand are still a work in progress. I've tried Isometric styles but they didn't turn out well at all. I did attempt smaller rivers as well which I think will look great in blue ink. Any suggestions on how to adjust the mountains are welcome. (of if I'm crazy and they look fine let me know).

 

Here's a pic of todays work:

0604142127_zpstsomboca.jpg

 

You need to flip this shading around to make it look right. In the picture above everythin above the 'snow line' is shaded dark but :upside: everything below the snow line is stark white.

 

 

Sumthin' ain't right. :ph34r:

 

Compare with these from the cartographer's guild thread:

6835d1223129032-%5Baward-winner%5D-tutor

I think the key with this type of shading is that each peak is half dark / half light.

6832d1223128900-%5Baward-winner%5D-tutor

 

Ahha! I think your on to something... I"ll have to try this on the next run. I did do some other ones in Blue ink this time. (just to be different) Im about to go to bed but tomorrow I'll try shading the bottoms and not the top. I'd try now but I've already cleaned up...

 

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