Bill_Adcock Posted January 25, 2004 Share Posted January 25, 2004 Hey, is it me, or is The Coming of Conan the Cimmerian missing a few tales? I could have sworn Red Nails, Jewels of Gwalhur, and A Witch Shall Be Born were REH, but they're not in there. I'm probably confusing them with something else. De Camp may not have been the best at writing Conan pastiches, but he did okay with nonfiction. His biography of H.P. Lovecraft is exhaustive and I'm currently half-way through a book of his on various facets of the Atlantis myth dealing with Plato, Mme. Blavatsky, Major Churchward and various others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelcore Posted January 25, 2004 Share Posted January 25, 2004 CONAN... What is best in life? To crush your enemies. See them driven before you. And here the lamentations of the wimin... To crush your enemies. See them driven before you. And here the lamentations of the wimin... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill_Adcock Posted January 25, 2004 Share Posted January 25, 2004 Okay, I just discovered on The official Conan site that The Coming of Conan the Cimmerian is only volume 1 of 3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionmane Posted January 25, 2004 Author Share Posted January 25, 2004 De Camp may not have been the best at writing Conan pastiches.. To be fair, I've heard that his own fiction tales aren't that bad, either. He just should've kept has hands off of Conan stories. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
primeval Posted January 27, 2004 Share Posted January 27, 2004 As far as the differences between the Conan stories as Howard wrote them and as DeCamp edited them aren't too huge(if I recall correctly). Well, one example that springs to mind of a change that seems pointless is the changing of the capitol of Aquilonia from Howard's Tamar to DeCamp's Tarantia. I believe I read somewhere that DeCamp would often change names if he thought they were too close to other names; in this case a city that borders Ophir is named Shamar, so I guess he decided he knew better than Howard what to name Hyborian cities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionmane Posted January 27, 2004 Author Share Posted January 27, 2004 As far as the differences between the Conan stories as Howard wrote them and as DeCamp edited them aren't too huge(if I recall correctly). [/quoteI believe I read somewhere that DeCamp would often change names if he thought they were too close to other names; in this case a city that borders Ophir is named Shamar, so I guess he decided he knew better than Howard what to name Hyborian cities. When taken to task about his and Carter's Conan stories being inferior to Howard's, De Camp once replied something to the effect of that he and Carter weren't crazy like Howard, so their writing coudn't match his intensity. DeCamp also hated Frazetta's artwork for the Conan books. He thought Conan should have short hair, which he thought more macho. I don't think anyone looking at Frazetta's works have ever thought, "Hmm, looks like a wimp." Plus, Howard's writing desribes Conan as having long hair. Luckily DeCamp didn't have any say on the cover art. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decado Posted January 28, 2004 Share Posted January 28, 2004 It is very lucky I would say that De Camp did not have a say on the cover art!! Does anyone know when the RPG is going to be released? I am anxiously waiting for "The Coming of Conan the Cimmerian" to arrive in the mail and have been trying to find the release date for the RPG. I was unable to find it on the Mongoose Publishing website. Decado Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
primeval Posted January 28, 2004 Share Posted January 28, 2004 I know I read somewhere in the last few days that the Mongoose D20 Conan is supposed to be released on January 28th, but now I can't find where I read that, so perhaps it is wishful thinking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
primeval Posted January 28, 2004 Share Posted January 28, 2004 Ok, I was wrong - the book is shipping now and should be available next week according to this post by Mongoose on their forums. It also contains an overview of the book. Now if I can find anyone who doesn't equate Conan with Arnold and Milius I might try roleplaying again... http://www.mongoosepublishing.com/phpBB2/v...opic.php?t=1039 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragon Snack Posted January 28, 2004 Share Posted January 28, 2004 Now that is a press release! I wasn't overly interested, but it does seem intriguing from reading that post... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill_Adcock Posted January 28, 2004 Share Posted January 28, 2004 I found The Ultimate Triumph as well as Bran Mak Morn: The Last King, both by Wandering Star Press, who's putting out the trilogy of Conan collections, online. Each are hardcover, lavishly illustrated...and a minimum of $50 each. Then the Conan RPG is another $50...Crom and Steel. I need to go raid an ancient temple complex, I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
primeval Posted January 29, 2004 Share Posted January 29, 2004 I found The Ultimate Triumph as well as Bran Mak Morn: The Last King, both by Wandering Star Press, who's putting out the trilogy of Conan collections, online. Each are hardcover, lavishly illustrated...and a minimum of $50 each. Then the Conan RPG is another $50...Crom and Steel. I need to go raid an ancient temple complex, I think. The Bran Mak Morn book is going to eventually be put out as a paperback like The Coming Of Conan, but there is a version of the hardback that also comes with a cd with a dramatic reading of Worms of the Earth - I think it is over $100 though. Amazon.com lists the Conan RPG at around $35, but I like to suppport the local shop, so I may fork over the full $50. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill_Adcock Posted January 29, 2004 Share Posted January 29, 2004 I'm sorry, but $100 for a book, even with a dramatic reading of Worms of the Earth (only Bran story I've read thusfar, have it in Chaosium's Nameless Cults) on CD, is just way too much. For $250, I can have the book bound in leather too. I'll wait for paperback. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
primeval Posted January 29, 2004 Share Posted January 29, 2004 I agree - that's why I waited for the paperback of The Coming Of Conan. I think the Bran Mak Morn paperback is due in 2005. I hope they do a Kull one as well, but I do have the old Donald Grant Kull that is the original unedited texts anyway. More on the subject of the RPG, it would be nice to see an official line of Conan miniatures using characters from Howard's stories. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chairman Aeon Posted January 29, 2004 Share Posted January 29, 2004 It is very lucky I would say that De Camp did not have a say on the cover art!! I'd say it's very lucky De Camp never had to face Howard after what he did to Howard's writing and said about him. Iain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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