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Gizmodo: "We're Done With Kickstarter."

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So Gizmodo, a blog about tech and gadgets and other nerdery, has declared that they have had it up to here with Kickstarter, and will no longer cover anything there, except to make fun of it. Link here; language is NSFW:

http://gizmodo.com/5897449/were-done-with-kickstarter

I kind of understand their point. There is an enormous amount of crap on Kickstarter. We've discussed how it can be a dandy platform for fraud, and while the Potato Salad Kickstarter was a joke, and everyone KNEW that, I've seen a half dozen since that take the joke beyond the point at which it was funny. Gizmodo also brings up another category of disappointment, one that had barely registered on my radar: the hopeful dreamer who invents something... well, ranging from "kinda useless" to "utterly ridiculous," and wants to give his dream wings! Won't you pledge?

I hadn't really noticed these people. I don't need an iPod watch or a cell phone dock. Mostly, I watch Kickstarter for gaming and miniatures developments. And after reading this article, I have to disagree with 'em. 

Yes, there are plenty of foggy headed dreamers out there who envision a world where their dream of hats and sunglasses for dogs and cats has made them rich beyond dreams of avarice. These folks don't bother me. As long as they don't hurt anyone, I see no problem in letting them chase their dream; most of 'em won't get funded, anyway.

Yes, there are plenty of crooks out there. I watch out for them, and I do my homework before I throw money. But, then, I always have. Or should have, anyway.

Yes, there are idiots out there who think they can get people to send them a buck because they think they're funny. I don't send them anything. Problem solved.

But then I look at situations like that guy who's doing the zombie shark Kickstarter, about which there is another thread around here somewhere, and I think, "Okay, dude has done a couple KS already, and seems genuinely enthused about what he's doing, and he wants to sell miniatures of his own design, and he's actually providing product more or less on schedule. Is it necessary to stomp on this guy's happy little labors of love just because some idiot elsewhere wants me to pay him to perfect his paper airplane design? Or because some other idiot wants me to send her money in exchange for Play-Doh sculpts of megafauna and sea monsters that may never actually exist?"

Not to mention actual miniatures businesses that are taking advantage of the platform to grow and diversify their businesses with plastic miniatures in a variety of genres, and send out their rewards to their backers as soon as humanly possible.

I can't help but think Gizmodo's being a tad unfair. What says the multitude?

And mods: If you think this thread belongs better in Beekeepers, do as you will.

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I can see both sides really. Honestly at this point I'm a bit tired of Kickstarter. I appreciate what it is capable of, and I think if used well it can be an amazing thing. But, I'm also sick of seeing thirty grajillion new kickstarters pop up every day for stuff that is useless, irrelevant, or already exists. Every single KS I have backed, which hasn't been many, I have backed because I wanted to support the person or company in question. The rewards were just a bonus. 

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Check the date on that article. It's over two and a half years old. There's nothing new there.

I've had that same article referenced multiple times over the past on my Facebook newsfeed.

 

In fact, they were giving up on kickstarter before, I suspect, most folks here had even heard about kickstarter.

Certainly before the boom in mini kickstarters began.

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Hm. Didn't realize the article was that old; I just saw it linked on FB is all.

And while I've made a point of backing people I wanted to support, I don't deny that the actual rewards played a part, and that there were a couple I supported simply because they had a product I wanted, and this was the quickest way to get it.

This does not go for coffee cup warmer pads and dog diapers.

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Is it passe to invoke Sturgeon's Law?

 

I should never be passe to declare the truth!   :B):

 

Kickstarter (and other types of crowdfunding) have fairly low barriers to entry, so I think it's to be expected that there were be all kinds of projects ranging from brilliant to... less so.  I don't see a problem with this, as the merit of those projects and their appeal to others will determine their individual success or failure.

 

That said, I do think we'll see crowdfunding as a whole continue to evolve and mature.  Much like any "new shiny thing", there have been some growing pains.  But as it becomes better established, I hope we'll see solutions to common problems arise.  Still, at its core it's a form of venture capital, and a certain amount of risk is always going to be present.

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It doesn't really bother me if there are a lot of projects on Kickstarter that don't interest me, provided there are still projects being made which do. It certainly requires a bit of a different mindset from ordinary shopping, but it's made me aware of a lot of cool things that I wouldn't have been aware of otherwise.

 

I certainly think that Kickstarter themselves need to do better with policing projects. And in particular should take on some responsibility for the rare occasions where something is provably a scam. But the general idea of crowdfunding is still something I like.

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Ultimately, whether it's KS, or some successor site, I think the crowd-funding over all will help humanity by making individuals more self reliant.  For creators, it will help them reach a market they might not otherwise reach.  For consumers, it should help teach people to do their own due diligence. 

There will, of course, be growing pains, and attempts to regulate things politicians don't understand and/or can't control, but in the end, it will be a boon to humanity.

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attempts to regulate things politicians don't understand and/or can't control

Now that I wouldn't worry too much about. Most politicians are so far behind the curve on this entire "World Wide Web" thing - many not even having gotten wind of this whole net neutrality issue - that crowdfunding won't be on their radar for years to come. (Unless a politician gets personally burned, as usual.)

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...the idea of a politician being part of a kickstarter is utterly alien to my way of thinking. Admittedly, they're all into crowdfunding, but... Kickstarter?

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If you've spent enough time on Kickstarter to find THAT many projects about which to be contemptuous, perhaps the problem is more that you've wasted too much time surfing Kickstarter. :devil:

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I've given up looking on Kickstarter for stuff I don't care about! This is an extension of my EARTH SHATTERINGLY CYNICAL WORLD WEARY SARCASTIC BRILLIANT MISUNDERSTOOD HATED IT BEFORE IT WAS COOL TO NOT HATE IT decision to:

 

not browse the web for things I don't care about

not watch things I don't care about on TV

not buy things I don't want to buy, and, truly my most hip and edgy decision, hold onto your hats SHEEPLE coz I'm'a ROCK YOUR TINY NARROW SHEEPLE WORLD

 

 

not listen to music I hate.

 

 

I AM SO TOTALLY ONE OF THE COOL KIDS NOW.

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So my puppy cuddling ks is not acceptable. :( I mean, I would be giving shelter dogs lots of love and cuddles and stuff, using the video to help promote adoption....pay off student loans, and try to help increase awareness for fundings for our shelters here. @[email protected]

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