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Okay! I got distracted by Ub3r's post on NMM vs. TMM, so now I'm back to ask the question I came to ask:

 

AIRBRUSHING! 

 

It's Christmas time, I've been doing this for a bit over a year, and I think I'm ready to step into the world of airbrushing... mabye. I haven't decided if it's worth the time and effort, but I'm curious enough to ask what everyone's using, what books, forums, people, etc. to follow, and what equipment would be best to live with. I've seen Iwata, Badger, and Testor's locally at the Hobby Lobby and Michael's, and Michael's is offering a 50% coupon so I'm thinking one of those compressors, but again, I don't know. Any advice would be awesome!

 

-K

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The testors ones are actually Aztek airbrushes. I used to have one (and still use the compressor) They aren't 'bad' exactly. But they are not what you want for actually airbrushing a mini. They where meant for larger plastic models. I suppose the real question is what do you want to do with it? All I ever do is large area priming, and a bit of terrain. I have done 1 actual mini, which came out quite alright, but it was a Battletech mech, so not near the level of details as 28 mm figures.

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There's a great advice thread from about a year ago in the painting tips subforum. Just search for airbrush and look for the one that's fairly long.

 

To be honest, that thread should probably be pinned as the question does come up often enough.

 

Edit: here you go: http://forum.reapermini.com/index.php?/topic/46202-needed-airbrush-equipment-basics-and-recommendations/page-1

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Wow! That was a LOT of info in one post MonkeySloth! Thanks for the link! I think I'm still going to have to do quite a bit of research to figure out which and what, or it may just come down to who what when or what's available. I think I'm leaning towards the Badger Patriot 105 or Renegade Krome. This is one of those circumstances I wish there was someone I knew that owned these and I could play around with them... LOL!

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I use a Patriot 105 an a Krome, I prime, seal, and varnish with the 105. I use my Krome .2 needle  to base coat and do cloaks at different angle'spost-7483-0-53866100-1416820906_thumb.jpg like this angel. I use a badger aspire 910 air compressor. I use Reaper Paints thin down with Awsome Paint Job's airbrush thinner, you can find the formula on youtube on Les site, no problem with clogs, get a little tip dry, no problem with an old paint brush, water and damp paper towel. You need to practice a little to get comfortable with the airbrush. It just another tool to save time an is fun.     

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The advice I heard from Aaron Lovejoy is to go with a Master G22/G23, which you can get for ~$30.  You'll need to spend more than that on the compressor, though.  I actually just ordered one myself as a second airbrush (though it's still in the mail).

 

I'm not sure I would take that advice from Aaron. The Master is a knockoff of one of the Iwatas, when you get a good one you are fine but if you have problems with it you may as well just throw it away. Although as you point out it is only $30.

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The advice I heard from Aaron Lovejoy is to go with a Master G22/G23, which you can get for ~$30.  You'll need to spend more than that on the compressor, though.  I actually just ordered one myself as a second airbrush (though it's still in the mail).

 

I'm not sure I would take that advice from Aaron. The Master is a knockoff of one of the Iwatas, when you get a good one you are fine but if you have problems with it you may as well just throw it away. Although as you point out it is only $30.

 

 

Yeah, the $30 price point is what makes it worth the risk to me.  Even if it's crap, I'll still get a chance to practice with a "normal" airbrush instead of the pistol-grip one I currently have.

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I have two Sparmax airbrushes, my main one is a GP-35c actually... and it is a Iwata knockoff with a .35mm needle ) I think it is similar to a Master airbrush. TBH I love it, easy to use and clean, smooth operation.

 

I could get an Iwata (Badger is not found locally) and I seriously want to, but I don't know if I could tell the difference at this moment.

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An airbrush is like any other tool we use, a quality tool will give you better results. I think the difference in airbrushes is really based on what your intended purpose is. If all you are going to do with an airbrush is prime and maybe do base coating or initial highlighting and shading (which is what Aaron uses that Masters brush for) then I'm not sure what airbrush you buy makes that much of a difference. I would still go with a dual action over a single action and if you are interested in the Grex pistol style try one out before you buy it. I was excited about the Grex until someone showed it to me at ReaperCon. My hands are just to big to use it. I had a hard time holding properly the grip was so small.

 

The devil is in the details as they say and while I haven't used the Master I would be curious to see how fine a line you can obtain with it and how low an air pressure it will operate with. For fine patterns on small pieces you need low pressure to avoid blowing your miniature over!

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Somehow I missed all of these other posts! Then again, it's been quite a busy week. I'm leaning towards the Badger brushes, as I believe I can pick those up locally as well as the compressors. 

 

I use a badger aspire 910 air compressor. 

 

Is there a reason you went with the 910? I get the impression that that's a "pro" model, and I'm concerned that it may be overkill. With that said, it looks like a lot of people like them and I'm tempted to pick up one of these.

 

It looks like I'll pick up a Patriot 105 as well, then possibly a Krome later. Or should I just start with the Krome? Hmmm....

 

All of this may be moot as we're thinking of getting a new TV for the family for Christmas, which would devour the air brush funds. This may have to be put off to post Christmas / Tax Refund time. We're currently using a 36" CRT and I'm tired of looking at people's noses on TV instead of the full picture. Then again, we're also thinking of reducing TV time overall as it truly does rot your brain. LOL!

 

SO, I'm thinking the Bagder 910 compressor as well as the Patriot 105... Is this adequate? I like buying quality and spending a bit more from the onset rather than dealing with crappy equipment at a later date. I can spread this out a couple of weeks locally at Michael's and get pricing lower than what I'm seeing online through coupons.... Wait, no, Amazon is much cheaper.

 

($260 airbrush set-up is much cheaper than $700+TV, but not "family beneficial)

 

Thank you for all of your input! This has been most helpful, even if it doesn't quite happen for Christmas!  :upside:

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