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So there I am adding the second layer to a [beautifully smooth I-might-add] basecoat. I'm halfway done and I pull the basecoat up with the brush.


This is the part where I scream ... a lot.


My mix is 1 drop extender, 2 drops flow-improver, 4-6 drops water plus my paint. I try to keep just the tip of the brush in the paint and try to pull/brush with only the very end of the brush.

Anyone know what I might be doing wrong or am I just a heavy handed baffoon?

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I had this problem with my stern model. I was using a blow dryer to help me with the time limit and I think the paint did not properly cure and when the slo-dry and extender hit it with the new paint, it breaks up. My guess is time and a softer touch will solve this, but I don't really have any evidence to support this. It sucks when it happens, that I can Guaranty.

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I have the same problem all the time...and I've attributed it to inexperience. I do use a small space heater on my desk....and I sit the minis in front of this to help speed drying time...

Another option I use sometimes is to lightly spray the mini with dullcote between layers....a cheaters way out I guess...but it does help.



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This generally happens to me after I've spritzed the mini with dullcote. The basecoat for the next portion I'm painting doesn't adhere that well to the dullcote. I've found basing first with primer and then my basecoat completely eliminates this issue. Primer adheres much better to sealer than does paint.


That said, however, if you're careful, you can use this adhesion problem to your advantage when painting free hand designs and other details. Instead of using primer for its adhesion, skip it, and paint down your detail's basecoat normally. If you make a mistake, it's then easy to "tease" the mistake off with a wet brush or else "re-sculpt" errant edges and so forth. This can be really handy.


I've also found that adding too much slo-dri or extender to my paint will diminish its adhesion ability as it dries more like a skin over the paint below as opposed to adhering fully to that layer. Cut back on your extender and instead mix in more flow improver and/or water as the paint in your palette begins to dry up.


And finally, a softer touch does help. Also, don't lay too much of the brush against the paint beneath unless you're sure the brush is wet. You can tug off a layer of paint as the paint on the upper end of your brush towards the ferrule begins to dry and becomes sticky.


That and don't paint over a drying surface... its moisture seems to soften the layer beneath. Don't retouch until *both* layers have dried. This is key, too.

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Whiz, you might have to give me the recipe for that....I've been tryin to explain to my trainer that there are only so many ways that a person can bake a chicken...

Actually, it's pretty easy, Kev.


Take a whole roaster and a room-temperature can of your favorite beer.... a *can* is key here.... bottles don't work... well, probably not well, that is...


Pour half of the beer into a saucepan, leave the rest in the can. Season the chicken with Lawry's Season Salt (Key ingredient), pepper, and whatever other spices you prefer to have on chicken... a little olive oil can be nice, too. Now, with the chicken standing up, shove the can of beer up its butt... OK... Into the breast cavity, but saying "shove it up its butt" is so much more fun. Then stand the bird directly on your charcoal or gas grill (set to low to mid-low) and close the lid. Let it roast. (If you have a grill that doesn't have deflector shields over the flame jets, you may need to shield the legs with tin foil to prevent them from charring off.)


The beer will boil and steam the inside of the bird...


While that's happening... Mix your favorite BBQ sauce into the saucepan with the beer in it and heat it up. This will serve as a gravy.


When the bird's done, carve it up and enjoy.


This *can* work in an oven, too, but it helps to pre-heat the beer and put it back into the can. Otherwise, it doesn't get hot enough to boil and steam before the oven has fully cooked the bird.

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I got a question that's slightly related... I just got a hold of some future floor finish. I've been using it to dilute paints in addition to water, but it doesn't seem to make it any better than just using normal water (in terms of having good washes). About the only noticable improvement with future finish is that the paint on the pallette doesn't dry for a very long time.


Now I just realized from the first post of this thread there's a difference between flow improver and extender... I thought they were the same thing, and so I got the future finish.


Anyhow, my question is, what is future finish consider? An extender? So would i need to buy a separate flow improved to make good washes?



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