CAV 2.M Beta [Fan Revision]

[Vil-hatarn]

The current incarnation of the EW rules functions primarily off of number of units affected rather than a radius. We've made a few other tweaks as well which seem to have helped.

[Mad Pat]

 

I've found that when using infantry to assault it works better to put them in transports, so they can remount and have the mobility to engage another target. Even when power armored and given jump jets they just don't have the mobility to keep up with all but the slowest CAVs.

 

I prefer to give drop troops either of the missile weapon upgrades, since it gives them some range to reach out and touch somebody to make up for their lack of mobility.  That and it's fun to launch a M3 attack with a rifle section against a CAV.

 

That's been my general experience as well; I'm particularly fond of drop infantry with both FiST and AT-23s for a really nasty one-two punch. Maybe too nasty--I'm strongly considering a one-strike-per-activation limit. In this particular case, however, it worked out fairly well; he caught my Emperors at the head of an alleyway, so while I could have run away with a couple of successful EXP checks it would have meant returning the Emperors to my deployment zone, which likely would have reduced their effectiveness even further than the loss of one of them.

 

The RC08 Grenade Launcers are an excellent surprise tool against the huddle too. IA w/no AOE means that they don't need LOS but never drift. So they can jump out of their transport and attack an ECM/EST model hiding behind a wall of bigger CAVs.

 

They were actually supposed to have no AOE in the original CAV 2 rules, but someone added the AOE stat at the last minute w/out realizing how it effected the weapon's mechanics.

 

So THAT's how that was supposed to work   I think that also means it would suffer range band penalties to the attack roll like a direct fire weapon? I'll have to give it some consideration--I was intending to rewrite the drift rules into the main rules text as part of a wider effort to reduce the number of rules subsystems which make no appearance outside the appendices, but it would preclude having the grenade launcher function that way as it would make drift an intrinsic part of IA.

 

 

No need for drift, the concept of the no AOE grenade was also originally supposed to have a fixed distance.  At scale a under slung grenade would drift but in the abstract of the game distances it wouldn't have been too much to add a short range drift.

[Moezilla]

The current incarnation of the EW rules functions primarily off of number of units affected rather than a radius. We've made a few other tweaks as well which seem to have helped.

 

Which sounds similar to how I felt it should have been. Linked vehicles, not forced to stay together but if the EW unit goes bye-bye, so does your cover. makes maneuver and cover vital to winning.

[Watchman]

 

The current incarnation of the EW rules functions primarily off of number of units affected rather than a radius. We've made a few other tweaks as well which seem to have helped.

 

Which sounds similar to how I felt it should have been. Linked vehicles, not forced to stay together but if the EW unit goes bye-bye, so does your cover. makes maneuver and cover vital to winning.

 

Reminds me of real life situations in S.A.C. when we were training B-52s to recognize and deal with the threat they were going to face in Vietnam.  When they got too close to the Radar site their jamming signal was so strong that we could lock on to it, track, and shoot down (simulated) the BUFFs.  They were doing low level runs to try to stay in Ground Clutter and popup just before the target they were going to bomb (simulated). They would use valleys and trench like depressions to try to evade us, more than once we had to notify the commanding Lt. for the shift; " Lt. bomber behind the trees!"  So the point is for low level runs they tried to use cover as much as possible even with jamming.

[Mad Pat]

Another option that was discussed at one time was a MK 1 targeting system shot.  Turn off your guidance and fire your indirect at a point in space and pray the target is there when it lands.   Removed the issue with bubbles but increases the risk of drifting your shots.

[Vil-hatarn]

Another option that was discussed at one time was a MK 1 targeting system shot. Turn off your guidance and fire your indirect at a point in space and pray the target is there when it lands. Removed the issue with bubbles but increases the risk of drifting your shots.

This is an option--since the bubble is gone, target lock and ECM only work when targeting models, not points.

[Vil-hatarn]

Cross-reference past versions no more! Enjoy a clarified and streamlined presentation of the rules!

 

That's right: as of this update, CAV 2.M has moved from an errata document to a full, internally consistent rulebook! Coming in at a sleek 30-odd pages, the final version will be a fully self-contained ruleset incorporating content from Shards, War for Sale, and our subsequent revisions.

 

Now for the less exciting news: presently, while absolutely playable, the rulebook is not quite in its final form. Several sections without substantive changes (Movement, Line of Sight) have been temporarily omitted in the interest of time, new graphics have yet to be generated, and portions of the Appendices (some Upgrades, the heavily revised Battlefield Assets) are not yet complete. We hope to include all of these alongside some final revisions later this year.

 

CAV 2.M Beta 7-26-16 Rulebook

CAV 2.M Beta 8-1-16 Data Cards

 

Please download, play, and enjoy! If you have any feedback, positive or negative, we'd love to hear it! And send me a PM if you're interested in contributing as a writer, artist, or more dedicated playtester!

[Moezilla]

Cool deal! Now maybe I can take my CAV models out of mothballs and get them back on the field! :)

[Vil-hatarn]

Cool deal! Now maybe I can take my CAV models out of mothballs and get them back on the field! :)

 

Responding to your related comment in another thread since it's more on topic here--I think you'll enjoy the Starhawk VI's newfound capacity for collateral damage thanks to the Burst SA: optional doubled attack rolls on the GGCs

[Vil-hatarn]

Post above has been updated with a link to the data cards. Please forgive the roughness of the formatting--substantial revisions remain to be made for balance and variety between cards and I thought it better to get these out and start working towards the next set than to spend hours formatting each and every card.

[Moezilla]

 

Cool deal! Now maybe I can take my CAV models out of mothballs and get them back on the field! :)

 

Responding to your related comment in another thread since it's more on topic here--I think you'll enjoy the Starhawk VI's newfound capacity for collateral damage thanks to the Burst SA: optional doubled attack rolls on the GGCs

 

Yep, my UTMC units need to be able to spread the love with the Hawk Vi's! :)

[Vil-hatarn]

As requested by Reaper in the CAV2 Rules Compilation thread, I'll be removing this project from the Reaper forums. Please PM me with an email address if you are interested in following further developments.

[Moezilla]

Thanks for all of the work Vil! It's appreciated and will get used!