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Experimentation in Primer with Bones (Pic heavy)

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Even though Bones does not require primer, a lot of us still base coat it for paint adhesion.  We've noticed that some paints are more likely to come off easily than others.  I'm going to start playing around with several common and hobbyist spray primers and report the results.  Baphomet did some preliminary experimentation here:  http://forum.reapermini.com/index.php?/topic/48669-bones-the-first-coat-is-the-difference/?p=1047003

 

First up will be Armory Grey Primer and Armory Clear matte sealer.

 

So far, the Armory Grey is amazing.  It dries fast and seems to adhere really well.  I think I like it over gray gesso and any of the normal acrylic model paints i've used.  No tackiness, even after 24 hours of sitting.  For this experiment I'm using Narthax.   

 

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yeah I didn't want to clutter up that thread with all my experimentation notes and durability stuff.. I'll add a link to that thread once I'm done.. 

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I've been hitting Bones figs with plain old automotive primer for months now - never had a problem.

 

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I've had only two problems with spray primer.

 

Once I didn't wash the model first (grabbed an extra one by accident) and the primer flaked off in patches with the first coat of paint.

 

The second time I used an almost empty can of paint that had started clumping. It would have clumped on anything, so it isn't a bones thing.

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Go to work on the wings some more tonight.. held the primer at both the shoulder joint and the finger joint area while I painted and turned the pieces.. so far, no damage to the Armory spray primer:

 

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AFAICT, and I've done some research, Armory spray primer is rebadged Krylon sandable primer. (This matches my experience, BTW, having used both fairly extensively, but I don't have proof.)

 

And Krylon is about 50% of the price of the Armory stuff.

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This is less an experiment than a report. I prefer to prime simply because I prefer working with thinned paints, and thinned paints and unprimed Bones don't get along. I've painted quite a few Bones, and every one of them was primed with Army Painter.  There has never been an issue (and I like it enough that I'm using it on metal now, too.)   Some of the pieces I've painted have been used extensively.  My warlock, for instance, has been used by three different players in three different games.  I haven't had any chipping or flaking of any sort.

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Considering I have some big Bones figures on the horizon, gonna follow this one closely. Really don't want to hand prime a large figure ::):

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  I tried Duplicolor Sandable Primer from the auto supply store.  Black and White worked OK, but for some reason the grey did not adhere well and would peel off with normal handling.  Maybe I just got a bad can of grey primer, but it consistently failed to adhere acceptably to either bones or metal minis.  I then shifted to Army Painter which I like better because it seems to leave a smoother surface for painting and it adheres well.

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