ub3r_n3rd Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 George - Les' Airbrush Thinner. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knarthex Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 (edited) Thanks Ub3r! I am about to order more scale 75 before the sale ends! Was going to get the airbrush thinner, so now I just saved $10 for another mini so that I can have 20.... 8) George Edit MY WALLET, my poor, poor wallet.... 4 more sets.... at least they are on sale.... Edited August 26, 2015 by knarthex 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ub3r_n3rd Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 Thanks Ub3r! I am about to order more scale 75 before the sale ends! Was going to get the airbrush thinner, so now I just saved $10 for another mini so that I can have 20.... 8) George No problem, always happy to help and enable. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willen Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 George, when I said that thinner formula worked great for me, I was meaning for VMC (Vallejo Model Color). It works with Reaper too. For SC75, only their brand thinner worked well. Les' recipe CAN work but it is not ideal. Just to clarify. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knarthex Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 Drats order sent this afternoon... Guess there is always next time... Takhisis will have to wait a bit for more reds... Besides, need to get paint on the fall exchange stuff! 8) George 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knarthex Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 So... I am starting to use this stuff, and have a couple of questions: 1- What ratio of paint to water / flow improver do people normally use with these? 2- How many coats are people needing for full opacity? Between starting to use a palette and dropper bottle paints (without putting it into a pot first), and the new brushes, I find that I am getting a bit clumsy with my brush loading... (a new term for me) so I will likely be asking a lot of noob questions here and there... Thanks for any and all Info! 8) George Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
galladril Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 1- What ratio of paint to water / flow improver do people normally use with these? 2- How many coats are people needing for full opacity? 1) 1:1 with water only if trying to basecoat. I know there are some members here are mixing it with flow improver, but I am trying to keep things as simple as I can (though at some point I may try those mixes...) 1:4, or 1:5 if I am trying to layer (and I may STILL need to thin down a little more, but so far I seem to be having good luck with this approximate ratio) 2) I seem to get really good coverage in 2 or 3 coats. Reds took a little longer, but browns, and blues were relatively easy. So far, I have only gone through 6 of the paints I have, but they have all been consistantly awesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnum9 Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 (edited) Ughhhhhh,So after spending waaay too much on Bones 3, I started watching a bunch of tutorials and messing around with one of my gf's old work airbrushes in the hopes of maybe actually painting some of this stuff instead of just hording it.Now I find my way back on to the forums here, again looking for airbrushing threads and somehow. SOMEHOW I stumble upon a way to spend more money on something totally unrelated. This hobby is brutal lol. I think I am going to pick up the metallic sets for sure... but has anyone monkeyed around with the terrain series? Is that "texture" paint sort of like some of the GW stuff I have seen that gives you "snow" effects or whatnot?Also, I think I am still a little confused on inks. Are inks just pure pigment that you add to paints in order to make them insanely saturated? Edited August 28, 2015 by Magnum9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissMelons Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 So... I am starting to use this stuff, and have a couple of questions: 1- What ratio of paint to water / flow improver do people normally use with these? 2- How many coats are people needing for full opacity? Between starting to use a palette and dropper bottle paints (without putting it into a pot first), and the new brushes, I find that I am getting a bit clumsy with my brush loading... (a new term for me) so I will likely be asking a lot of noob questions here and there... Thanks for any and all Info! 8) George I've started being more responsible with my paint and using medium/water again. You kind of have to with the thick scale 75 paint. It's pigment heavy as heck. I don't have a particular formula though. Sometimes I just use a drop of medium per two drops of paint and just use water.off my brush. Sometimes I add water and medium plus the water on my brush to the paint. I typically only need two layers of paint. I've gotten better at not just slopping it on there and letting fate decide the clumps. Since I switched to using a wet pallete for 90% of my painting, I find I'm able to control brush load more. I still use the welled palette for some wet blending and washes though. Really it just takes practice and playing with what works. I could tell you to do one drop of medium per drop of paint but where that may work in humid or moist environments, that may not sit well with someone in a dry environment. Paint drys stupid fast in my office and some days I only need a drop, other days I need three drops. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knarthex Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 1- What ratio of paint to water / flow improver do people normally use with these? 2- How many coats are people needing for full opacity? 1) 1:1 with water only if trying to basecoat. I know there are some members here are mixing it with flow improver, but I am trying to keep things as simple as I can (though at some point I may try those mixes...) 1:4, or 1:5 if I am trying to layer (and I may STILL need to thin down a little more, but so far I seem to be having good luck with this approximate ratio) 2) I seem to get really good coverage in 2 or 3 coats. Reds took a little longer, but browns, and blues were relatively easy. So far, I have only gone through 6 of the paints I have, but they have all been consistantly awesome. So... I am starting to use this stuff, and have a couple of questions: 1- What ratio of paint to water / flow improver do people normally use with these? 2- How many coats are people needing for full opacity? Between starting to use a palette and dropper bottle paints (without putting it into a pot first), and the new brushes, I find that I am getting a bit clumsy with my brush loading... (a new term for me) so I will likely be asking a lot of noob questions here and there... Thanks for any and all Info! 8) George I've started being more responsible with my paint and using medium/water again. You kind of have to with the thick scale 75 paint. It's pigment heavy as heck. I don't have a particular formula though. Sometimes I just use a drop of medium per two drops of paint and just use water.off my brush. Sometimes I add water and medium plus the water on my brush to the paint. I typically only need two layers of paint. I've gotten better at not just slopping it on there and letting fate decide the clumps. Since I switched to using a wet pallete for 90% of my painting, I find I'm able to control brush load more. I still use the welled palette for some wet blending and washes though. Really it just takes practice and playing with what works. I could tell you to do one drop of medium per drop of paint but where that may work in humid or moist environments, that may not sit well with someone in a dry environment. Paint drys stupid fast in my office and some days I only need a drop, other days I need three drops. Are you 2 using the fantasy line or the regular sets? My understanding is that the formulas for the 2 are different. Reds Always Take a little longer! MissMelons, I premix my water/flow improver in a bottle with an integral eyedropper in it at the recommended ratio, so I am always using a mix when I thin paint. It gives me a norm that I have grown used to. My painting environment is between 65 and 75 degrees, with no more than 60% humidity, give or take, so I don't really worry about that kind of thing.... Thanks for the info! I am sure I will be asking more questions tonight when I st down to paint. 8) George Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knarthex Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 Ughhhhhh, So after spending waaay too much on Bones 3, I started watching a bunch of tutorials and messing around with one of my gf's old work airbrushes in the hopes of maybe actually painting some of this stuff instead of just hording it. Now I find my way back on to the forums here, again looking for airbrushing threads and somehow. SOMEHOW I stumble upon a way to spend more money on something totally unrelated. This hobby is brutal lol. I think I am going to pick up the metallic sets for sure... but has anyone monkeyed around with the terrain series? Is that "texture" paint sort of like some of the GW stuff I have seen that gives you "snow" effects or whatnot? Also, I think I am still a little confused on inks. Are inks just pure pigment that you add to paints in order to make them insanely saturated? Welcome Back to the addiction hobby and forums! The Soil Works stuff is pigment, not paint as far as I can tell. I would guess it is similar to what MiG and Vallejo make, and is totally another animal from paint. It's like chalk powder that you put on and spray with a fixative. Looks great when done correctly, but I have had little luck with them so far. Look carefully at the pic of the box on their site.... I have seen MiG tutorials on Youtube, and other places. I have the Metallic Gold set, and used the 4 golds in it, they are wonderful! I have the other 2 metallic sets on the way, hope to see them Monday.... I use inks to make washes and glazes instead of using paints, I have also used them to punch up the colors of something I have already painted. I have not tried mixing them into wet paint before applying it. Inktensity on the way too.... Good luck with the airbrush too! 8) George 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bathory Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 I also have a dropper bottle with my "mix" in it. Fantasy is already thin, depending on your paint style depends on thinning. I still thin for base coating and build up my base over a series of layers (I am trying to get my painting to look smoother) I made the mistake of adding zenital highlights to aprt painted mini, airbursh explodes, white everywhere. I now have a super highlighted mini. So I made super thinned glaze/washes of Scale75 to add back over the colors to pop them back up. Holy moly, you can thin this stuff SO MUCH and it still coveres evenly and nicely. Since I was using hot pink and lime green I felt like I was painting with liquid jolly ranchers it was so translucent. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knarthex Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 I also have a dropper bottle with my "mix" in it. Fantasy is already thin, depending on your paint style depends on thinning. I still thin for base coating and build up my base over a series of layers (I am trying to get my painting to look smoother) I made the mistake of adding zenital highlights to aprt painted mini, airbursh explodes, white everywhere. I now have a super highlighted mini. So I made super thinned glaze/washes of Scale75 to add back over the colors to pop them back up. Holy moly, you can thin this stuff SO MUCH and it still coveres evenly and nicely. Since I was using hot pink and lime green I felt like I was painting with liquid jolly ranchers it was so translucent. My 'style' is in complete transition at the moment, I am using and learning about my new brushes, new brand of paint, using a wet palette and a well palette, doing blends, layering etc that I am still feeling my way to finding what works for me.... I thinned Antares Red for a base coat, covered in about 4 coats, thinned 1/ 1. The Cantabric Blue was the same. (Both over white primer) I was surprised that the blue took as many coats as the red. Maybe I should have been surprised that the red covered as quickly as the Blue! 8) George 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissMelons Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 Are you 2 using the fantasy line or the regular sets? My understanding is that the formulas for the 2 are different. Reds Always Take a little longer! MissMelons, I premix my water/flow improver in a bottle with an integral eyedropper in it at the recommended ratio, so I am always using a mix when I thin paint. It gives me a norm that I have grown used to. My painting environment is between 65 and 75 degrees, with no more than 60% humidity, give or take, so I don't really worry about that kind of thing.... Thanks for the info! I am sure I will be asking more questions tonight when I st down to paint. 8) George I own a dropper with water and a dropper with medium. They're separate and not mixed. I own a fantasy line and two of their old lines of paint. The fantasy line is thinner so I don't add too much to that. The older line I do thin more with medium. My dropper bottles with medium or water aren't perfect so the drops I get are quite large. Probably a drop and a half worth in one drop compared to Reaper drops. If that makes any sense. I used scale 75s on the flat I painted and the bust I'm doing now. The flesh tones and browns are from Reaper though. Unless I'm blending, I only need two layers of scale 75 paint for coverage. I make sure it dries completely in-between layers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loim Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 I have a dropper bottle with a 1:10 mix of flow improver and water. I use it for making washes and for the thinning of things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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