Bones Kickstarter #3 Discussion

[Qwyksilver]

 

That means increasing and expanding the *variety* of offerings, not simply the *quantity*. That means as things progress, more and more niches are found, and exploited. 

 

The odd thing is that miniature companies haven't made many "bread and butter" miniatures, such as townsfolk, furniture, or even donkeys! 

It's one of those weird things where everyone says they want them, but when they get made, they don't always fly off the shelves.

So if folks want lots of Townsfolk, buy em by the truckload.

[kristof65]

There is that difference between wanting and willing to spend for.  There's lots of stuff I want that I won't spend the money on - everything I want has a price point above which I don't want it so much. 

That's one of the reasons I like the Bones line. A lot of those wants actually end up being well below my max price point - especially with the Bones Kickstarters.  A great example is the elemental miniatures. I've wanted a full set of elementals for a long time - but I wasn't going pay for them in metal, or even resin.  But the Bones elementals are at a price point that became a must buy - and I'm even getting more than I originally wanted, because those plastic minis are far better (and bigger) than other stuff offered in metal. 

[Smokestack]

The wierd thing is I have turned to fantasy football (sportsball) miniature games for unarmed peoples... I just bought Black Scorpions Amazon team... There are quite a few that could pass as vilalgers or whatnot... I hope we get some more of that in bones.

Edited July 13, 2015 by Smokestack

[Jessie]

 

 

 

 

That means increasing and expanding the *variety* of offerings, not simply the *quantity*. That means as things progress, more and more niches are found, and exploited.

The odd thing is that miniature companies haven't made many "bread and butter" miniatures, such as townsfolk, furniture, or even donkeys!

It's one of those weird things where everyone says they want them, but when they get made, they don't always fly off the shelves.

So if folks want lots of Townsfolk, buy em by the truckload.

I wish we could see more than just the top 10 current sellers. Because I bet townsfolk sold pretty well volume-wise compared to some of the bones dragons. Question is if the volume was enough to make up for what I would assume is a slightly higher profit on the dragons.

[Laoke]

OK.  I've reviewed the information and made the decision to ship the Kickstarter rewards from the US myself.  I've updated the Reaper pledge manager with my US shipping details.  Hopefully it won't cause any problems but, deep inside, I'm fully aware that this is going to take longer and be more expensive than getting Reaper to handle internation shipping : )

[ApesAmongUs]

 

 

That means increasing and expanding the *variety* of offerings, not simply the *quantity*. That means as things progress, more and more niches are found, and exploited. 

 

The odd thing is that miniature companies haven't made many "bread and butter" miniatures, such as townsfolk, furniture, or even donkeys! 

It's one of those weird things where everyone says they want them, but when they get made, they don't always fly off the shelves.

So if folks want lots of Townsfolk, buy em by the truckload.

 

Speaking from my own viewpoint,  I wouldn't be surprised if this is a case of a few people saying they want them loudly and not of a large number of people wanting them.  I've painted a few of my bones townsfolk and even some of the relatively non-adventurer Stonehaven minis, but not a single one has seen even a second of gameplay.  Barroom brawls happen, but they are mostly flavortext as in many games the threat represented by a town guard is quickly reduced to laughable, let alone a bartender.  Maybe the occasional setpiece battle with civilians to save, but how often can that happen?

 

It always seems to be that these types of minis are more for dioramas or the very least for people who paint more based on what they like than what they will use, and bones seem geared towards a different crowd than that.  I don't regret having them, but they don't strike me as something that would be a big draw if we're mainly looking at a gaming market.  You run into plenty of townsfolk in games, but they aren't really the major players when combat starts and minis become relevant.  You don't really need minis for everyone that ever appears in a game, only for those who matter when you roll initiative.

[kristof65]

My co-DM and I have found that having minis out for our kid's D&D game really helps the kids envision what we're describing. So for us, having lots of minis of just about everything really helps. Of course, I've used Campaign Cartographer's Character Artist expansion to make literally hundreds of card stock minis for that purpose, so I don't really have to buy any more for that purpose unless I want to. 

[Talae]

Numbers Based on 1700-1800 Reaper time today:

Total Gain Today - $19,524

Total to Next Goal - $22,782

New Backers This Hour - 3

Gain in last Hour - $1,047

Current Average Pledge - $114.08

Average Hourly Pledges Today - $1,085

Average Hourly Backers Today - 6.9

Hours to next goal based on Hourly Avg - 21.8

Hours to next goal based on Daily Avg - 21.0

[pinkymadigan]

 

 

 

That means increasing and expanding the *variety* of offerings, not simply the *quantity*. That means as things progress, more and more niches are found, and exploited.

The odd thing is that miniature companies haven't made many "bread and butter" miniatures, such as townsfolk, furniture, or even donkeys!

It's one of those weird things where everyone says they want them, but when they get made, they don't always fly off the shelves.

So if folks want lots of Townsfolk, buy em by the truckload.

I wish we could see more than just the top 10 current sellers. Because I bet townsfolk sold pretty well volume-wise compared to some of the bones dragons. Question is if the volume was enough to make up for what I would assume is a slightly higher profit on the dragons.

 

 

While that's how you and I might feel, since dragons have featured highly in all 3 Kickstarters, I would be willing to bet against that. 

[StarFyre]

Bryan - oh i just meant my ideal.  I dont expect that.  That's what I buy the large resin monsters whenever i can :)
 (forgeworld, etc)

 

its reason i sell most of my 'regular' stuff; to find larger purchases :) and in many cases, for a small profit.

 

 

Ideally, something like tiamat would be, standing on all fours, 2-3 ft tall IMHO.  considering she's a god that can alter size (3.XE divine rules), etc she should be as epic as possible :)

 

and it would just look awesome.

 

Kinda like the Forgeworld Warlord Titan which i think is 2 ft tall? (althoguh artwork makes it appear like it should be 4-6 ft tall like the ones GW has in their large battle scenes at Gamesday UK).

 

 

Regards,

 

Sanjay

I believe that for the scope of this project, the size you are asking for is beyond the realm of possibility. We are only beginning to experiment with larger figures than were possible in metal, and are doing so gradually (since we are risk-averse). Perhaps in the future we will comfortable with such a model, but for this project I will say No.

 

[Talae]

Hints for a Mini Bryan Requested to be Made: 

• Environment of origin not relevant
  
• No Wings
  
• Roughly the size of an Ogre
  
• Upper right corner of next reveal
  
• Iteration of a MM (1, 2, 3, etc)
  
• Bryan begged for it to be made
  
• In a reward with multiple models
  
• Not possible in metal - Only Bones due to shape
  
• Bryan shall crow when it is revealed.
  

Edited July 13, 2015 by Talae

[Egg of Coot]

 

 

 

They also released a limited edition Nethyrmaul that was the size of the original sculpt, and lovingly reproduced in super-sharp resin. 

 

 

WHAT!?!?!?!?  When did this happen?  And why was I not informed?

 

The Egg

 

They were available for sale at RC '14.  I think for $195.  I was hemming and hawing the whole convention, and when I finally failed my Will save and gave in, someone had bought the last one about 5 minutes earlier.  I considered it Fate.

 

 

Dammit!  It's just my luck that it'd only be available at ReaperCon.  I totally would have scooped it up if it'd been available in the Reaper webstore.

 

The Egg

Edited July 13, 2015 by Egg of Coot

[Chaoswolf]

 

Hints for a Mini Bryan Requested to be Made: 

• Environment of origin not relevant
• No Wings
• Roughly the size of an Ogre
• Upper right corner of next reveal
• Iteration of a MM (1, 2, 3, etc)
• Bryan begged for it to be made
• In a reward with multiple models
• Not possible in metal - Only Bones due to shape
• Bryan shall crow when it is revealed.

 

What's this all about?

[tiniest rhombus]

 

Hints for a Mini Bryan Requested to be Made: 

 

• Environment of origin not relevant
• No Wings
• Roughly the size of an Ogre
• Upper right corner of next reveal
• Iteration of a MM (1, 2, 3, etc)
• Bryan begged for it to be made
• In a reward with multiple models
• Not possible in metal - Only Bones due to shape
• Bryan shall crow when it is revealed.[/size]

What's this all about?

Trying to guess what the 1,110,000 stretch goal is going to be. Those are the clues Bryan gave.

[Sirithiliel]

Ooooo interesting!