Pingo Posted July 4, 2016 Share Posted July 4, 2016 My chief concern about hydrogen peroxide is that over time what will it do to the paint brushes' hairs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willen Posted July 4, 2016 Share Posted July 4, 2016 My chief concern about hydrogen peroxide is that over time what will it do to the paint brushes' hairs? Uh, I put some in my palette last night but never got to painting (and it does not smell faintly like humidity like it does lately so I thought it was a success) but didn't got into thinking about that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AutumnHare Posted July 4, 2016 Share Posted July 4, 2016 My chief concern about hydrogen peroxide is that over time what will it do to the paint brushes' hairs? I have not noticed any damage to my W&N7s after about a year of using the peroxide. BUT, I do use the Masterson papers rather than parchment. Based on how my paints behave when left in the pallette, I am not sure that any moisture actually passes up through the paper to potentially contact my paints and brushes. (The Masterson paper sort of ... absorbs most of the liquid in the paints overnight, while keeping what remains moist. To use them the next day, I need to put a new drop of water on top of the paints to bring them back up to the right consistency. I have never used parchment, so I don't know if it behaves differently.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pingo Posted July 4, 2016 Share Posted July 4, 2016 My chief concern about hydrogen peroxide is that over time what will it do to the paint brushes' hairs? I have not noticed any damage to my W&N7s after about a year of using the peroxide. BUT, I do use the Masterson papers rather than parchment. Based on how my paints behave when left in the pallette, I am not sure that any moisture actually passes up through the paper to potentially contact my paints and brushes. (The Masterson paper sort of ... absorbs most of the liquid in the paints overnight, while keeping what remains moist. To use them the next day, I need to put a new drop of water on top of the paints to bring them back up to the right consistency. I have never used parchment, so I don't know if it behaves differently.) By all reports Mastersons paper and parchment paper behave completely differently. Parchment paper is (or some of it is -- not all brands are the same) porous. Water slowly seeps through and paints on it tend to puddle a bit after the first day. Too much water underneath and the paints will get too dilute, but a steady light dampness and (at least in a temperate rainy climate) they will remain at optimum painting consistency. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pegazus Posted July 4, 2016 Share Posted July 4, 2016 Two thoughts on hydrogen peroxide. One, since the hairs of the brush are actual hairs, wouldn't the brushes eventually get to a peroxide blonde? But I think that's negated by thought two: the hydrogen peroxide might decompose pretty quickly in a wet pallet depending on organic material and any catalytic effect of the sponge. So, putting a cupful or so of it in the pallet would disinfect it, but after a day I imagine there's little of it left. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pingo Posted July 4, 2016 Share Posted July 4, 2016 Two thoughts on hydrogen peroxide. One, since the hairs of the brush are actual hairs, wouldn't the brushes eventually get to a peroxide blonde? But I think that's negated by thought two: the hydrogen peroxide might decompose pretty quickly in a wet pallet depending on organic material and any catalytic effect of the sponge. So, putting a cupful or so of it in the pallet would disinfect it, but after a day I imagine there's little of it left. A "capful", surely? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pegazus Posted July 4, 2016 Share Posted July 4, 2016 Two thoughts on hydrogen peroxide. One, since the hairs of the brush are actual hairs, wouldn't the brushes eventually get to a peroxide blonde? But I think that's negated by thought two: the hydrogen peroxide might decompose pretty quickly in a wet pallet depending on organic material and any catalytic effect of the sponge. So, putting a cupful or so of it in the pallet would disinfect it, but after a day I imagine there's little of it left. A "capful", surely? I just grabbed a random measurement. Oh, wait. *sigh* Autocorrupt. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serenity Posted July 4, 2016 Share Posted July 4, 2016 I have recently tried something new... I put the Masterson's paper on the sponge and then the bakers parchment on top of that. It's holding my over thinning from absorbtion to almost nothing... It also removesthe yellow cast of the sponge. I have also started using a bit of H2O2 in my palette, and it seems to be helpful. I used to do the double-paper trick with Masterson's paper below the parchment, but got out of the habit when the Masterson's paper wore out. I think I should try it again now, since I'm back to using a yellow sponge instead of paper towels, and I like how the two layers of paper mute the yellow. I do not recall there being less water absorption into the paints, so I'll have to see if that is true for me as well. Did you heat or boil the Masterson's paper in water first or just soak it a little bit? I'm wondering if that would make a difference regarding absorption. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knarthex Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 I put it in a Pyrex baking pan, and then poured boiling water from a tea kettle over it and left it to soak for a while. Don't remember how long though... Was certainly more than 3o minutes though... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bane Of Humanity Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 Welcome to the moist side....​wait what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranky Dog Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 (edited) I have recently tried something new... I put the Masterson's paper on the sponge and then the bakers parchment on top of that. It's holding my over thinning from absorbtion to almost nothing... It also removesthe yellow cast of the sponge. I have also started using a bit of H2O2 in my palette, and it seems to be helpful. I used to do the double-paper trick with Masterson's paper below the parchment, but got out of the habit when the Masterson's paper wore out. I think I should try it again now, since I'm back to using a yellow sponge instead of paper towels, and I like how the two layers of paper mute the yellow. I do not recall there being less water absorption into the paints, so I'll have to see if that is true for me as well. Did you heat or boil the Masterson's paper in water first or just soak it a little bit? I'm wondering if that would make a difference regarding absorption. I never thought of using the double paper trick. It'll be interesting to see the difference in performance. My Sta-Wet palette is still relatively new, as I'm only on my second sheet of paper. But I'll try it when I reach the end of my current Masterson paper sheet (currently half covered) and start a new one. I think it's either the Reynolds or Costco parchment paper that I have in the kitchen (or some other store brand). Currently, I've been using boiling water for a while now, and I've never seen any sort of mold. Seeping paint stains on the sponge yes, but not mold. Edited July 7, 2016 by Cranky Dog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bathory Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 I started with well pallets.... Switched to wet... Switched back to well and have improved my painting skills. Just wasn't a fan of the wet pallets. I think it just depends on how you paint and personal taste. I do a lot of really really thin paint glazes and ink glazes and just like the wells better. I used the wet pallets for a while and just didn't like them for the way I paint. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pingo Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 I started with well pallets.... Switched to wet... Switched back to well and have improved my painting skills. Just wasn't a fan of the wet pallets. I think it just depends on how you paint and personal taste. I do a lot of really really thin paint glazes and ink glazes and just like the wells better. I used the wet pallets for a while and just didn't like them for the way I paint. Chacun à son goût. If I painted minis like that a wet palette would drive me bonkers, but a welled palette would be perfect. I'm glad you've found a set-up that works for you. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kheprera Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 I started with well pallets.... Switched to wet... Switched back to well and have improved my painting skills. Just wasn't a fan of the wet pallets. I think it just depends on how you paint and personal taste. I do a lot of really really thin paint glazes and ink glazes and just like the wells better. I used the wet pallets for a while and just didn't like them for the way I paint. Same here. Wet palettes drive me nuts. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvervane Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 I use both, wet and well depending on what I'm doing. For layering I tend to use a wet pallet, it allows me to keep my paints wet long as I can use the same paints for days. For glazing/washing and base coating / priming I use a well pallet. The open wet pallet allows me to mix colors as needed, while the well allows me to thin my glazes/washes with out fear of the paint mixing in with other colors around. Both are tools I like to use. Though I do use the wet pallet more. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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