myradale Posted March 11, 2004 Share Posted March 11, 2004 I've got some skeletons that I'm doing with half-plate, and I'd like to give tehm the "fresh from the grave" look we all know and love. Anyone got a good "rust" technique? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerridwyn1st Posted March 11, 2004 Share Posted March 11, 2004 This is something I just did recently. I think it worked pretty well. I painted a base coat of rust red. For this I used Vallejo Model Color Hull Red. Then I drybrushed a dark steel color on that. Next, I added "rust lines" around bits that were sticking out on the shield, like the rivets and spike. I don't have a link to the picture to show you this, but when I shoot the fig I'll come back and post a link. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pae Posted March 11, 2004 Share Posted March 11, 2004 Funny you should ask. I'm doing that very thing right now with one of the Reaper Black Orc Warriors. Basically the way I'm doing it is by painting the armour as normal, but then applying a few layers of a wash consisting of thinned Vallejo Smoke. Smoke is one of the inks that Vallejo puts out that has a really nice smokey brown color to it. Here's what it's looking like so far. Sorry about the pic...it's just a quickie I shot for this post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myradale Posted March 11, 2004 Author Share Posted March 11, 2004 thanks folks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whizard Hlavaz Posted March 11, 2004 Share Posted March 11, 2004 In the Link that AWhang provided in the NMM Recipe Thread, there is a discussion about rusting NMM using greens and browns to achieve an effect similiar to that used in the Confrontation display minis. You may be interested to check that out. The link A. provided is This. If you haven't read the thread on the other end of A.'s link, it is very interesting, particularly if you're taken with NMM. As A. pointed out in the Recipe thread, "Ark" -- a former Rackham (Confrontation) painter - shares some of his recipes and techniques for NMM, including a very detailed graph of how he layers. Quite good. I'm much indebted to AWhang for this resource. You will be, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePolo Posted March 11, 2004 Share Posted March 11, 2004 ...a wash consisting of thinned Vallejo Smoke. Smoke is one of the inks that Vallejo puts out that has a really nice smokey brown color to it. Man... everywhere I turn, people are talking about 'Smoke'... Are the Vallejo inks that good? What's with the strange allure of 'Smoke'? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pae Posted March 11, 2004 Share Posted March 11, 2004 Smoke is the only one I've tried of the Vallejo inks. But it's really nice. I use it for a lot of different things. In the image I provided earlier, I originally painted the plates in NMM steel, and the spikey things in NMM bronze. After that was finished, I applied the smoke. I'll have a better pic of this entire mini once I finish it. Should be tomorrow night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whizard Hlavaz Posted March 11, 2004 Share Posted March 11, 2004 Man... everywhere I turn, people are talking about 'Smoke'... Are the Vallejo inks that good? What's with the strange allure of 'Smoke'? Well.... As old Khundar Angwright would say... "Smoke!? Smoke is the soul of the dwarf race! It is the breath of Moradin, forged in his divine chest and blown lovingly into the earth from which he crafted his children. Smoke gives the dwarf life, and, in return, we keep the holy church censers ever-burning in remembrance of this gift. And we draw smoke from the pipe to refresh this memory within ourselves..." . . . . . Err.... Sorry. Forgot myself. Dang fantasy life interfering with real life again... Oh, well... Smoke is a very useful color. Like Reaper Walnut and GW Flesh Wash, it can be applied in many different situations. Try it. You'll like it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerridwyn1st Posted March 11, 2004 Share Posted March 11, 2004 What about Tamiya Smoke? Must be a different color than Vallejo; mine looks like dark gray, almost black. It's specifically mentioned in an article on CMON about polishing metal instead of painting it. I've used it on a couple of things and it is really nice. I used it to add shading to the dragonet on Tox's shoulder (I had painted the dragonet gold) and the affect was stunning. http://wolfbar.servemp3.com/cerridwyn1st/ebay1/Toxall.jpg http://wolfbar.servemp3.com/cerridwyn1st/ebay1/Toxfa.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monster Posted March 11, 2004 Share Posted March 11, 2004 The Vallejo "Smoke" is great. I also use it in scenery to detail some of my stone buildings. Also try the "patina green" glaze from Vallejo. I'm painting a Reaper orc army and using the patina green over a darkened bronze plate mail motif. The idea is to give the army a look like they had too grave rob and scavange thier old armor. Fitting for lowely orcs... For rust I use a pretty standard trick 2parts GW brown wash to 2parts Yellow wash to 1part water. This can be drybrushed over steel, especially chainmail to give an overall dirty and rusted effect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monster Posted March 11, 2004 Share Posted March 11, 2004 PS I was watching TV.... As I was writing this, I remembered that Vallejo is made in Spain, where there was horrible terrorist attack today. I hope the families and survivors can find blessings in thier lives again soon. And I hope that cowardly terrorist murderers die the deaths they deserve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Death Angel Posted March 12, 2004 Share Posted March 12, 2004 As A. pointed out in the Recipe thread, "Ark" -- a former Rackham (Confrontation) painter - shares some of his recipes and techniques for NMM, including a very detailed graph of how he layers. Quite good. OK, so I have looked through this thread but I can't see anything that leads to what your talking about here.......am I simply looking in the wrong place? Cheers, Julie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
primeval Posted March 12, 2004 Share Posted March 12, 2004 As A. pointed out in the Recipe thread, "Ark" -- a former Rackham (Confrontation) painter - shares some of his recipes and techniques for NMM, including a very detailed graph of how he layers. Quite good. OK, so I have looked through this thread but I can't see anything that leads to what your talking about here.......am I simply looking in the wrong place? Cheers, Julie http://www3.sympatico.ca/jleblanc012/etape-nmm.jpg This has a graphic of Arkaal's NMM recipe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mclimbin Posted March 12, 2004 Share Posted March 12, 2004 Well, even though this link is to a competitor (Games Workshop), it is a great article on achieving different effects with rusted and decayed metal: http://us.games-workshop.com/hobby/paintin...tal/default.htm I hope the Reaper gods will forgive me for linking a GW site. It's all in the interest of improving our painting, which will only honor our beloved Reaper minis even more. GW may be money-grubbing corporate bast**ds, but someone there clearly knows a thing or two about painting Michael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whizard Hlavaz Posted March 12, 2004 Share Posted March 12, 2004 OK, so I have looked through this thread but I can't see anything that leads to what your talking about here.......am I simply looking in the wrong place? Heyya, Julie. It takes a little digging to find Ark's nuggets of wisdom. He comes in quite later in the thread and then scatters his recipes throughout as people ask for them. Here's the compendium so far (all paints are Vallejo Model Color): STEEL: Intermediate Blue 903, Pale Grey Blue 907, White 951 -- RUST & WEAR: I use a little bit of green and brown. (as seen in Sin Assyris) The link Primeval provided (HERE) describes how the above colors are applied. GOLD: Green Ochre 914, Light Yellow 949, White 951. COPPER : 818 Red Leather, 815 base skintone, 951 White. CHAINMAIL: 866 Grey green, 836 London Grey, 989 Sky Grey, 951 White Enjoy! *sends prayer of thanks to both AWhang and Ark* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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