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So always have fun with eyes (not) and anyway, I'm wondering how, or if, I would go about adapting the lining the eye technique for a dark skin tone? Or if anyone has any advice on painting eyes with dark skin tone, that'd be awesome too! I'm terrible with eyes anyway so all the help I can get is awesome

 

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General eye tips:

 

  • True white has no place when painting eyes other than for a tiny specular highlight (catchlight) if you're being particularly precise. If you look closely at sclera, they are a light pinkish color; even with the exaggeration necessary for miniatures, you should use a very light skin tone or gray instead of white.
  • Very little of the sclera (white) shows under most circumstances. Paint only the corners white unless you're going for all-consuming fear. (This is even more true for many animal eyes, btw.)
  • It's the shadow around the eyeball that give much of the shape to the eyes. This is true regardless of skin color, but you need to be a bit more subtle with darker skin.
  • There are typical combinations of skin, iris, and hair color. If you want to go natural, you should probably use one of them. But going against type can give a striking result, especially in fantasy. Think about the effect you're going for before picking a combination.

I treat the eyes of dark-skinned figures much the same as any other figure. I paint the sclera, then the iris, then line around the eye, then paint the face. This gives me the easiest set of repairs when things go a bit whopper-jawed.

 

Not that that would ever happen to you.  ^_^

 

HTH

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 Painting the eyes is pretty much the same regardless of skin tone, although I find that even moreso with darker skin tones you need to be careful not to leave too wide a dark line around the eye - it tends to make the character look evil even when you're not trying for an evil look.

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