Dr.Bedlam Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 I'm inclined to agree with the Grump: it's all about what's "official D&D" as opposed to "what's the best mini out there, plastic or otherwise." Back in the dying days of the seventies, I played D&D and I wanted to learn about miniatures: how to use 'em, how to paint 'em, and so forth. Being out in the middle of nowhere, I sent off for the catalog from The Dungeon Hobby Shop in Lake Geneva. They sent me back a photocopied catalog with few pictures, and the pix it had were... well, seventies photocopy quality. So I said hellwiddit and bought several Grenadier Official D&D Boxed Sets. And lo, there was much rejoicing, and I learned to paint miniatures on those. I accumulated many more before I learned about this Ral Partha thing, and quickly realized that while Grenadier was "Official D&D," Ral Partha made far superior minis, and I promptly began acquiring THOSE. The important thing to notice is that I was way the hell out in the sticks, shopping off a photocopied list, completely unable to go out and DO anything about it. I didn't see what you and I would call a "hobby and game shop" until 1980. Children are at the mercy of their parents and their budget until they get drivers' licenses and jobs. So the younger set, if they buy miniatures, are going to buy the official D&D stuff, if they're interested in D&D. Period. If they ask for minis for birthdays or Christmas, the parents are going to go with Official D&D Miniatures, to avoid disappointing their offspring. They may wise up upon seeing a better miniature, but they're going to start with the Real Stuff, if you get my drift. Even if it's nothing but a name. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAuldGrump Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 23 hours ago, Dr.Bedlam said: I'm inclined to agree with the Grump: it's all about what's "official D&D" as opposed to "what's the best mini out there, plastic or otherwise." Back in the dying days of the seventies, I played D&D and I wanted to learn about miniatures: how to use 'em, how to paint 'em, and so forth. Being out in the middle of nowhere, I sent off for the catalog from The Dungeon Hobby Shop in Lake Geneva. They sent me back a photocopied catalog with few pictures, and the pix it had were... well, seventies photocopy quality. So I said hellwiddit and bought several Grenadier Official D&D Boxed Sets. And lo, there was much rejoicing, and I learned to paint miniatures on those. I accumulated many more before I learned about this Ral Partha thing, and quickly realized that while Grenadier was "Official D&D," Ral Partha made far superior minis, and I promptly began acquiring THOSE. The important thing to notice is that I was way the hell out in the sticks, shopping off a photocopied list, completely unable to go out and DO anything about it. I didn't see what you and I would call a "hobby and game shop" until 1980. Children are at the mercy of their parents and their budget until they get drivers' licenses and jobs. So the younger set, if they buy miniatures, are going to buy the official D&D stuff, if they're interested in D&D. Period. If they ask for minis for birthdays or Christmas, the parents are going to go with Official D&D Miniatures, to avoid disappointing their offspring. They may wise up upon seeing a better miniature, but they're going to start with the Real Stuff, if you get my drift. Even if it's nothing but a name. No, no - Ral Partha didn't make Superior minis - Superior Models was a completely different company... <-purple. Heritage. Archive. Grenadier. Ral Partha. Superior. Citadel. Asgard. Dragontooth. Martian Metals. Dark Horse. Minifigs. And a couple of companies that had their minis in plastic baggies that I never remember the names of. The Auld Grump 3 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Sundseth Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 1 hour ago, TheAuldGrump said: Minifigs. When I search for Minifigs, I don't find Minifigs until almost the bottom of the third page of results. And I search for miniatures stuff all the time. Why? Legos. Lego people are not minifigs, figures carved from lead potatoes are minifigs. Legos can get off my lawn! And "Lego" is not a collective noun! So there! Also, Ohio State can take their trademark application for "The" and shove it where //// -- This transmission interrupted unexpectedly. -- 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Bedlam Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 Don't get me started on old minis brands. I wept when I found out what happened to Martian Metals (the house in which their factory was located BURNED DOWN, and they lacked insurance; I was told by one who was there that he saw the molten metal literally gushing from the burning wood siding at one point). I haven't googled Minifigs in years. That must be frustrating as all hell, having to wade thru Legos... 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAuldGrump Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 3 hours ago, Dr.Bedlam said: Don't get me started on old minis brands. I wept when I found out what happened to Martian Metals (the house in which their factory was located BURNED DOWN, and they lacked insurance; I was told by one who was there that he saw the molten metal literally gushing from the burning wood siding at one point). I haven't googled Minifigs in years. That must be frustrating as all hell, having to wade thru Legos... Painful, too. At least if you have bare feet. (Why, yes, I am speaking from experience. ) The Auld Grump 2 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haldir Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 Latest wave's renders are up on wizkids/upm site. Confirmed tonight by my FLGS owner, he'll get his shipment Friday this week! I told him for sure to save me a Sepctator pack at least. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorallineAlgae Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 Thank you for getting this thread back on topic @haldir I just added the Spectator & Gazers to my MM order that was waiting for this set to release. It still wasn't mailed out, so I was able to add to the order. Also added a couple Reaper paints that Anne recommended a few times in her videos and 1 color I needed to complete a triad. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nunae Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 2 hours ago, haldir said: Latest wave's renders are up on wizkids/upm site. What wave is that? Just wondering if I'm up to speed with my pre-ordering xD On another note: It was announced earlier this year that Vallejo and Wizkids are going to colab on a D&D paint line. This excites me, since I use mostly Vallejo colors. Has anyone heard more information about that? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amuller33 Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 7 hours ago, Nunae said: What wave is that? Just wondering if I'm up to speed with my pre-ordering xD On another note: It was announced earlier this year that Vallejo and Wizkids are going to colab on a D&D paint line. This excites me, since I use mostly Vallejo colors. Has anyone heard more information about that? This would be wave 9 I believe. 10 Has been announce but not 11 ...yet 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werkrobotwerk Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 the tiny frog men are adorable 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haldir Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 10 hours ago, Nunae said: What wave is that? Just wondering if I'm up to speed with my pre-ordering xD On another note: It was announced earlier this year that Vallejo and Wizkids are going to colab on a D&D paint line. This excites me, since I use mostly Vallejo colors. Has anyone heard more information about that? 2 hours ago, amuller33 said: This would be wave 9 I believe. 10 Has been announce but not 11 ...yet Product releasing this week is actually Wave 10. 9 was the "Young" dragons wave. 11 has been announced. My bad, 9 is the Wave releasing this week. I've only heard the announcement on the paint, nothing else. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlazingTornado Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 (edited) ....is that warlock holding the wand of Orcus?!??!! Geez. Edited August 15, 2019 by BlazingTornado Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haldir Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 3 minutes ago, Werkrobotwerk said: the tiny frog men are adorable Yah, love that there are 3 to a pack like the other small creatures (still think the twig blight should have gotten a pack of it's own. You just don't encounter 1!!). Debating on using grungs vs bullywugs when my players play Danger at Dunwater due to those minis. 3 minutes ago, BlazingTornado said: ....is that warlock holding the wand of Orcus?!??!! Geez. Pretty sure that's a artist interp' of a Pact Keeper rod. 11 hours ago, CorallineAlgae said: Thank you for getting this thread back on topic @haldir I just added the Spectator & Gazers to my MM order that was waiting for this set to release. It still wasn't mailed out, so I was able to add to the order. Also added a couple Reaper paints that Anne recommended a few times in her videos and 1 color I needed to complete a triad. Again, just "speculating" (no pun intended, honestly!!) with the craziness of the beholder, this is the only one I'm seeing as Out of Stock on various site I browse. I need one for a future adventure, I'd hate to finally have access to a cheap one & not be able to use it. I played Mines of Pandelver using Gauth. A mini-size beholder prepaint. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattnuke Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 The grung are great. I bought a bunch of the prepaints and plan on getting at least three more of the three packs. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ced1106 Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 Well, I bought the D&D Nolzur's Marvelous Unpainted Miniatures: Air Genasi Female Rogue at half-off from the OLGS, and it's one of the worst miniatures I've ever seen. Pretty much half of the miniature's seam is covered in a thick mold line that looks like a gash on its body, and one of the arms was glued too far backwards. Never again will I buy a WK miniature sight-unseen from the OLGS. Reaper Bones have mold lines, but nothing as bad as this WK miniature. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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