primeval Posted April 24, 2004 Author Share Posted April 24, 2004 (edited) Words you should never say where your greenstuff can hear you, for in its evilness it will seek to thwart your plans: "Chainmail can't be that hard to do." Geez, first off I laid out the kilt and made sure I had roughly the size and shape made out before I put it on the barbarian. I thought I had the thickness even all around as well. But once I started creating the holes in the mail, it became apparent that I did not have even thickness, so some holes are deeper than others. I also tried to create a regular pattern to make it look like rows of links, but with the way I had the kilt laid I didn't manage to pull that off either. Oh well, live and learn; it was my first attempt at this. The wash I gave it was to try and see what I had to work with before basecoating. I went with the split front after looking at some Frazetta Death Dealer paintings. If it looks terrible when I paint it (and the more I look at it I think it will) then I will just go back and get more greenstuff out and go over it to make it a cloth kilt and say "I meant to do that". The horn on the rhino got a spearhead from an old skeleton I had already butchered for its skull, and the cap is greenstuff with a rune carved into each side. Anyway, here is the finished conversion - on to the painting! Edit: Okay, I have been sitting here looking this over and that does not look like chainmail. If I paint it in metallics it will look like a sheet of metal with some holes in it. So, I will have to put a very thin layer of greenstuff over it and make it cloth or fur. I have been wanting to give someone a tiger-skin kilt/loincloth... Edited April 24, 2004 by primeval Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Jag Posted April 26, 2004 Share Posted April 26, 2004 That is just a great looking model! Curious if your chainmail concerns would be dashed aside once the miniature gets painted? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enchantra Posted April 26, 2004 Share Posted April 26, 2004 Great finished conversion! I think he looks fine. If a fur look on the kilt was what you were going for I would suggest drawing the tool through the green stuff instead of making holes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
primeval Posted April 26, 2004 Author Share Posted April 26, 2004 Great finished conversion! I think he looks fine. If a fur look on the kilt was what you were going for I would suggest drawing the tool through the green stuff instead of making holes. Oops, should have mentioned in my edit that this picture is still of the failed chainmail attempt. I have since gone over it with a thin layer of greenstuff to smooth it out. I plan on doing it as a snow leopard skin. My camera is unavailable for a few days so I couldn't get another picture. Thanks for the input! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaphod Posted April 28, 2004 Share Posted April 28, 2004 Kev, this project is coming along great! Remember, take your time! I think chainmail woul dbe most difficult to sculpt convincingly! Maybe the fur is the way to go :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodnik Posted April 28, 2004 Share Posted April 28, 2004 The fur would be cool for the barbarian...perhaps some of the under leather showing a bit.... You know...since he is a man of the north...and riding a wooly rhino...a cold-critter, so to speak. Of course, you'd have to take care that it wasn't TOO much fur....break it up somehow... You wouldn't want him to look like some centaurian birth defect... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
primeval Posted April 28, 2004 Author Share Posted April 28, 2004 LOL - yeah, I thought of the fur blending with the mount too much, so I am going to do it as either just a cloth garment, or a leopard or tiger since they appear short haired, so I can leave the kilt smooth. Thanks for the input Glyn and Kevin - I am definitely taking my time with this one! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionmane Posted May 2, 2004 Share Posted May 2, 2004 This looks great so far. I haven't attempted to sculpt mail yet, but I've gotten pretty good at sculpting fur-it's pretty easy. The rider's pose reminds me of Frazetta's "Berserker"-so many cool points awarded there. I've done some snow leopard fur on barbarian minis-it looks pretty cool, if you haven't done any yet, I think you'll like the results. I have lots 'o' books on big cats for reference(tiger skin, leopards, etc). Keep up the good work, fellow Cimmerian-can't wait to see the finished model!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Death Angel Posted May 4, 2004 Share Posted May 4, 2004 Ohhhhhhh very cool. It has been a while since I looked in here and I like what I see. I don't think I have the creative skills to play with the green stuff! I will just have to leave that to the more talented of you all! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankthedm Posted May 10, 2004 Share Posted May 10, 2004 The chaimail looks like chainmail, but the kilt looks more like an ankle length dress. Not that anyone can say that to the barbarian and live... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
primeval Posted May 10, 2004 Author Share Posted May 10, 2004 Well, he is being painted now so hopefully he will be done soon and shown over in the show-off section. The kilt was smoothed over and painted as a grey leopard fur, not thick like a snow leopard but hey, this is fantasy. The kilt is long, but I got the idea from some of the artwork being done on the new Conan comic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
primeval Posted May 11, 2004 Author Share Posted May 11, 2004 Ok this isnt a conversion question, but since I am in the process of painting up this figure, I thought I would get some more feedback... I have done the rhino horn in a bluish-grey NMM, but had thought about doing all the rest of the metal in a lighter steel NMM. Any opinions on mixing it up like that? Would it look too distracting; would the same NMM all around be more cohesive? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
primeval Posted July 11, 2004 Author Share Posted July 11, 2004 OK, I finally decided I need to get this guy done! Our local con is coming up in a few weeks and I hope to enter this one in the painting contest. I went back and smoothed out the kilt after my disastrous attempt at chainmail. I have the rider done (although I may give the hair a few more glazes of Reaper walnut to tone it down some). The rhino I am thinking of doing white, working up from some kind of tan base, through bleached bone, to white. Not sure what color the non-furry parts should be if I do that - anty ideas? Gray? Anyway, here is the half-finished Kaegan the Marauder: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Tam Posted July 11, 2004 Share Posted July 11, 2004 Looks good to me! I like the skin tomes. Are you planning on toning down the hair? It looks awfully yellow to me. LT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
primeval Posted July 11, 2004 Author Share Posted July 11, 2004 Looks good to me! I like the skin tomes. Are you planning on toning down the hair? It looks awfully yellow to me.LT Yes, I have already glazed the hair with walnut twice and it still is too yellow! I might have to re-highlight with bleached bone to go over the yellow and then glaze again. i used reaper hawkwood and gw bubonic brown - didnt think it would wind up this yellow! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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