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1 hour ago, TheAuldGrump said:
4 hours ago, Doug Sundseth said:

 

Barbarian is really good at smiting. And the person you smite doesn't have to be any special alignment for it to work, either. ::D:

 

I strongly recommend Beast Totem. A hasted, pouncing barbarian with a 2-handed sword rocks.

Pretty sure that Jon is going with straight up human Barbarian.

 

Beast Totem is a rage power totem tree (there are many of these, each three powers deep). I've run human Barbarians with the full Beast Totem tree, and it's scary.

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Turns out that he has already taken World Serpent Totem - and has been using it all along. (Korvosa is lousy with Imps....)

 

We have two main combat people in the party - and their approaches are very different.

 

Lately, Molly has been popping in from the shadows, *stabbity, stabbity, stabbity!*, then popping back into the shadows.

 

Often changing targets, looking for the most vulnerable, whether that means least armored or most injured.

 

Jon is more 'You scream, and you leap.' Most often at the first available target. (This is a group that is more likely to have the Barbarian run out of rage than have the casters run out of spells...)

 

Jon is the one that makes the 'most injured' enemies that Molly then deals with....

 

In real life, Molly plays jai alai, while Jon fights heavy list in the SCA.... 

 

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When I was playing my barbarian (with a couple of levels of rogue for evasion and acrobatics) in Crimson Throne, I ignored my armor class and went pure combat monster. My job was to kill people; other people's job was to keep me standing up. It didn't hurt that we also had a bow-specialized ranger to add to the fun.

 

By the end of the campaign, the GM was routinely adding 100-200 HP to boss monsters so that they might be able to survive to the second round of combat.

 

I must say that we were having fun, but the GM was getting kind of frustrated. (Much the same thing happened at the end of Skull & Shackles, where the former ranger was playing a blaster sorcerer and I was playing a save-or-suck wizard. DC29 saves aren't easy for even most high-level creatures to hit.)

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On 20.9.2017 at 5:26 PM, TheAuldGrump said:
On 20.9.2017 at 2:26 PM, Loim said:

It took me a long time to realize that a properly played Cleric is pretty hard to stop. Especially if you have them in a party with some good damage dealers. Also Blade Barrier is stupidly overpowered. 

There is a bit of a story on why the Cleric, and by extension, the Druid are so powerful - but it comes down to folks not wanting to play the healer.

 

Me, I like playing Clerics - it is fun to be the preacher, and gives lots of opportunity for role play.

I'm waiting for two years now to play my cleric (elven cleric of sehanine moonbow). She has a backstory and everything, but it turned out noone else wanted to DM. I'm still the only one willing to do the DM'ing, so she's still waiting. Problem is, that I'm not even sure I would be satisfied by running her through a oneshot, I would really like to put her through some character development. But hey, one day ...

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Getting back to the core argument of this thread, I found the polemic that I used to define the systems back when Pathfinder was new and shiny....

5831883124_bb048ce0e6_b.jpgOD&D by YeAuldGrump, on Flickr

 

5831887106_efc6d40dbf_b.jpgAD&D 1e by YeAuldGrump, on Flickr

 

5831342189_860bd2272f_b.jpgBasic D&D by YeAuldGrump, on Flickr

 

5831353251_583cf68522_b.jpgAD&D 2e by YeAuldGrump, on Flickr

 

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Then, with 3e, and when the edition wars started getting into gear, my argument became more pointed -

5831906054_74e21c62f7_b.jpg3e by YeAuldGrump, on Flickr

 

5831909546_a1ca2f3e62_b.jpg3.5 by YeAuldGrump, on Flickr

 

5831921240_323a4ff55c_b.jpg4e by YeAuldGrump, on Flickr

 

5831378099_88efa36b42_b.jpgPathfinder by YeAuldGrump, on Flickr

 

Pretty sure that will clear everything up....

 

The Auld Grump - I guess I will need to add 5e at some point....

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Pretty much the whole gist is - D&D is a game about killing things, taking their stuff, and having fun while doing it - and that the edition really does not matter all that much, as long as you are having fun.

 

In order though - The Black Swan, Yellowbeard, Peter Pan, Blackbeard's Ghost, Treasure Island, Hook, Pirates of the Caribbean, and On Stranger Tides...

 

And, yes, I do like pirate movies.... ::P: (Heck, one of the two X rated movies I own* is a pirate movie... bought by accident because it shares a name with a less pornographic movie.)

 

The Auld Grump - I thought that I was ordering Roman Polanski's Pirates....

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What I got was -

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(Which was also a surprisingly good movie - just... raunchy. I had it for years and never saw it until Megan decided that we were going to watch it. And... she was right.)

 

* The other X rated movie is Flesh Gordon, bought on purpose, because it is pretty danged funny, in a raunchy sort of way.

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3 hours ago, TheAuldGrump said:

What I got was -

pirates.jpg

(Which was also a surprisingly good movie - just... raunchy. I had it for years and never saw it until Megan decided that we were going to watch it. And... she was right.)

 

Excuse my skepticism but really?  I can imagine that it has a plot (maybe even a decent plot) but I'm finding it hard to believe that the acting is anything other than bad.

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16 minutes ago, Jokemeister said:

 

Excuse my skepticism but really?  I can imagine that it has a plot (maybe even a decent plot) but I'm finding it hard to believe that the acting is anything other than bad.

I could link to a video review of it but I'm wary it'd break some board rules... I mean the reviewer tends to drop a few f-bombs and while it's up on Youtube it's still kind of a porn movie review....

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Roman Polanski's Pirates is a freaking great movie. 

Robert Shaw starred in Swashbucker, which also ranks high on my list.  (Also starring James Earl Jones and Peter Boyle.)

 

And the other Pirates actually had an R-rated version that was once available at Blockbuster (if you remember that chain).  Since Blockbuster famously didn't rent adult films, I did a double-take when I saw it sitting on a shelf.  But no, they took the worst (best?) parts out and produced a not-horrific movie.

 

And the movie has some actual funny parts, and the acting isn't as bad as you might think.  I mean, from what I hear . . . friends of friends, you understand.

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