GW Announces WH40K 8th edition

[Dilvish the Deliverer]

Well, I haven't played since the Rogue Trader days, and am unlikely to start now (I've got a distinct lack of opponents and limited time for games; Frostgrave is my current focus).  however, I hope that this goes well for GW.  As much as they are a fun target to bash, they were one of the big influences on me getting into painting miniatures in the first place and I would like to see things go well for them.  In seems that they are starting to get onto the right track (I for one didn't mind the couple of demo games of AoS that I played).

[Crowley]

2 hours ago, Dilvish the Deliverer said:

Well, I haven't played since the Rogue Trader days, and am unlikely to start now (I've got a distinct lack of opponents and limited time for games; Frostgrave is my current focus).  however, I hope that this goes well for GW.  As much as they are a fun target to bash, they were one of the big influences on me getting into painting miniatures in the first place and I would like to see things go well for them.  In seems that they are starting to get onto the right track (I for one didn't mind the couple of demo games of AoS that I played).

My problem with GW was almost never the games themselves, it was the constant churn, and the way they treated a) their employees, b) the independent retailers, and c) their customers. I've heard they're getting better.

 

Of course the last time I played 40K was right after.... 5th edition came out.

[Sergeant_Crunch]

1 hour ago, David Brawley said:

My problem with GW was almost never the games themselves, it was the constant churn, and the way they treated a) their employees, b) the independent retailers, and c) their customers. I've heard they're getting better.

 

Of course the last time I played 40K was right after.... 5th edition came out.

That's about the time I got out of 40k, for pretty much the same reasons.  On the other hand, for some reason I've been toying around with the idea of getting back in lately.  The Gamer ADD has been kicking me hard lately, probably because I haven't really been able to consistently play anything for a long time. Color me moderately interested for now.

[Crowley]

5 minutes ago, Sergeant_Crunch said:

That's about the time I got out of 40k, for pretty much the same reasons.  On the other hand, for some reason I've been toying around with the idea of getting back in lately.  The Gamer ADD has been kicking me hard lately, probably because I haven't really been able to consistently play anything for a long time. Color me moderately interested for now.

Yeah, I'm tempted, but the cost of entry is a bit much. Plus I really do prefer skirmish level games, and I want something like Frostgrave that lets me use whatever minis I want/already have.

[Sergeant_Crunch]

Just now, David Brawley said:

Yeah, I'm tempted, but the cost of entry is a bit much. Plus I really do prefer skirmish level games, and I want something like Frostgrave that lets me use whatever minis I want/already have.

With the exception of a few replacements, I should still have enough models to do Space Marines and IG (or whatever they're calling them now) around the house so I've got that going for me.  I like the skirmish games too, but sometimes I just want to drop a tank or three on the table.  Even if it doesn't make much sense at that scale.

[Dai-Mongar]

If the core rules are free and the army rules really are inexpensive, I could see myself giving it a go with a relatively small army. If not, I'll wait for Ganesha's Harder Than Steel to come out and scratch the 40K itch with SW:A.

 

Also, this is my favourite part of the FAQ I talked about earlier:

 

Why should I trust you?
Come on! This is New Games Workshop™

 

 

[Glitterwolf]

11 minutes ago, Dai-Mongar said:

If the core rules are free and the army rules really are inexpensive, I could see myself giving it a go with a relatively small army. If not, I'll wait for Ganesha's Harder Than Steel to come out and scratch the 40K itch with SW:A.

 

Also, this is my favourite part of the FAQ I talked about earlier:

 

Why should I trust you?
Come on! This is New Games Workshop™

 

 

 

Sure...sure....*** draws gun***

[Clearman]

4 hours ago, David Brawley said:

My problem with GW was almost never the games themselves, it was the constant churn, and the way they treated a) their employees, b) the independent retailers, and c) their customers. I've heard they're getting better.

 

Of course the last time I played 40K was right after.... 5th edition came out.

 

I've always preferred GW's fantasy over 40k.  The above plus the cost of entry has always kept me away, especially when there are so many other great minis to get.  The whole AoS thing has helped either.

[Lars Porsenna]

So I have been a long time player of GW's games, fantasy & 40K (Fantasy since 4th, 40K really seriously from 3rd). So while a lot of noise is STILL being made about how eeeviiil GW is, as someone that is still actively engaged in the games & community, there HAS BEEN A CHANGE IN HOW THEY DO THINGS. Time will tell if this is a permanent trend, but relaxing restrictions on how GW stuff is sold on-line alone signals big changes internally IMHO...

 

In our local community there are a few people getting really excited about the new rules, so much so that they are actually coming back to the game. For me I am a bit more reserved. The rumors about how vehicles will be handled (high toughness wounds buckets, rather than the current mechanic) really doesn't thrill me. At all. But time will tell how they actually handle things. I think streamlining the rules will be a good thing, however...

 

Damon.

[Sergeant_Crunch]

1 hour ago, Dai-Mongar said:

If the core rules are free and the army rules really are inexpensive, I could see myself giving it a go with a relatively small army. If not, I'll wait for Ganesha's Harder Than Steel to come out and scratch the 40K itch with SW:A.

 

Also, this is my favourite part of the FAQ I talked about earlier:

 

Why should I trust you?
Come on! This is New Games Workshop™

 

 

I laughed a bit at that one.

 

25 minutes ago, Lars Porsenna said:

So I have been a long time player of GW's games, fantasy & 40K (Fantasy since 4th, 40K really seriously from 3rd). So while a lot of noise is STILL being made about how eeeviiil GW is, as someone that is still actively engaged in the games & community, there HAS BEEN A CHANGE IN HOW THEY DO THINGS. Time will tell if this is a permanent trend, but relaxing restrictions on how GW stuff is sold on-line alone signals big changes internally IMHO...

 

In our local community there are a few people getting really excited about the new rules, so much so that they are actually coming back to the game. For me I am a bit more reserved. The rumors about how vehicles will be handled (high toughness wounds buckets, rather than the current mechanic) really doesn't thrill me. At all. But time will tell how they actually handle things. I think streamlining the rules will be a good thing, however...

 

Damon.

That part has gone a bit of way to relax some of my reservations about GW as a company.  I'm just waiting to see how the rules come out.  One of the things I always disliked was that it was more effective to run up and hit the enemy with your rifle instead of shooting it.  I understand that has changed over time, but my attitude about the company prevented me from investigating further.

[Lars Porsenna]

21 minutes ago, Sergeant_Crunch said:

 One of the things I always disliked was that it was more effective to run up and hit the enemy with your rifle instead of shooting it.  I understand that has changed over time, but my attitude about the company prevented me from investigating further.

 

In the current edition the shooting game is very much front & center. To the point where I don't trot out my Word Eaters these days (armies composed almost entirely of berzerkers don't do well in the current meta). Waiting to see what happens with the current rules though...

 

Damon.

[Lars Porsenna]

Summary from the live FAQ GW did today:

 

http://theminiaturespage.com/boards/msg.mv?id=451728

 

Damon.

[Sergeant_Crunch]

Huh. That's interesting.  I'm wondering if by making the core rules free how much artwork/fluff will be in that book.  That and if the cost will be shifted to the models.  Making the core rules free goes a long way to entice older players, especially if the army books are significantly less that what a codex currently goes for.  Just makes me wonder what they're cutting, what they're raising prices on, and what they're absorbing.  In the end, they still have to make shareholders happy.  Or I'm being overly cynical.

 

At any rate, since the core rules are going to be free there really isn't any reason to not check them out.

[TheAuldGrump]

My excitement knows no beginning.

 

I sold off the Dark Angels that I had started collecting back in the Rogue Trader days about the same time that I started getting serious about courting the Megan - no causal connection there - but I had not played in two editions, and each new edition made me want to play less, not more - I no longer had any interest.

 

The Auld Grump - my army was Dark Angels 5th Company: Engineering - 'Badger Wing'.

[Pingo]

3 hours ago, Dai-Mongar said:

If the core rules are free and the army rules really are inexpensive, I could see myself giving it a go with a relatively small army. If not, I'll wait for Ganesha's Harder Than Steel to come out and scratch the 40K itch with SW:A.

 

Also, this is my favourite part of the FAQ I talked about earlier:

 

Why should I trust you?
Come on! This is New Games Workshop™