Crowley Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 Just now, Sergeant_Crunch said: You can field an all Khorne list, I can't speak to the viability as I haven't played as Chaos. I did however watch a video in which the remains of a Berzerker squad (which amounted to three or four models after walking across the board under concentrated fire) pretty much obliterate three squads and several characters of the IG. As long as it's rules legal, I'm happy. My dice hate me, and mostly I want to be able to charge my toy soldiers across the field directly into the guns of my opponent. Ideally, if I get there, he dies. Of I don't... He lives. Either way Khorne is happy. Strategy and objectives are for lesser armies. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lars Porsenna Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 8 hours ago, izzylobo said: Tip: Inceptors are too complex - or too three-dimensional, to be more accurate - of a model to paint fully assembled. Assemble the jet-pack, paint, assemble the Marine, paint. Do not try to do this once fully assembled - there will be nooks and crannies almost impossible to access. This is how I've been doing regular marines for 2 decades (since 3e came out & their repop of the core marines)... Damon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant_Crunch Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 1 hour ago, David Brawley said: As long as it's rules legal, I'm happy. My dice hate me, and mostly I want to be able to charge my toy soldiers across the field directly into the guns of my opponent. Ideally, if I get there, he dies. Of I don't... He lives. Either way Khorne is happy. Strategy and objectives are for lesser armies. Well, if you have them in transports, they can assault the turn they dismounted like in days of old. May be helpful in getting them across the board. Rhinos have 10 wounds, so unless you get hit with a lascannon fusilade it takes a fair bit to destroy them. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crowley Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 I have 3 rhinos and 2 land raiders... So that's awesome! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Chaoswolf Posted June 21, 2017 Author Moderator Share Posted June 21, 2017 Good...good, let the hate flow through you. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lars Porsenna Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 4 hours ago, Sergeant_Crunch said: Well, if you have them in transports, they can assault the turn they dismounted like in days of old. May be helpful in getting them across the board. Rhinos have 10 wounds, so unless you get hit with a lascannon fusilade it takes a fair bit to destroy them. Not quite like the old days, since infantry must dismount BEFORE the transports move. So if you get them close enough that debussed infantry can assault, also means there will be a turn where they can be shot up. In the glory days of 3e, transports could move, infantry disembark & THEN assault (called Rhino Rush). This edition puts the nix on that abuse... Damon. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant_Crunch Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 Oh, I remember the Rhino Rush, really hated it when it contained Berzerkers or Plague Marines. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crowley Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 2 hours ago, Sergeant_Crunch said: Oh, I remember the Rhino Rush, really hated was awestruck by the gory glory it when it contained Berzerkers or Plague Marines. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mehman Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 10 hours ago, David Brawley said: For those who have the rules and codexs, are chaos cult forces doable in this edition? I have 60+ Khorne Berzerkers and an assortment of Khorne dogs and beastmen/bloodletters. Can I still use them? Short answer: Yes. Long answer: Absolutely. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knarthex Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 (edited) CW, DB, DTD, NEMPA in general. .. We could likely set up games.... Just sayin... IRON WITHIN, IRON WITHOUT Edited June 21, 2017 by knarthex 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vil-hatarn Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 2 hours ago, knarthex said: CW, DB, DTD, NEMPA in general. .. We could likely set up games.... Just sayin... IRON WITHIN, IRON WITHOUT Never got into 40K but I'd happily try out Kings of War with my old High Elves. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reaperbryan Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 On 6/21/2017 at 1:29 AM, TGP said: Mildly curious. Interesting these 'free' rules are are 3x the length of the 'free' fantasy rules. Some of the reasons for that is because 40k has complexity not present in fantasy - mostly transports and Flyers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reaperbryan Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 On 6/21/2017 at 5:16 AM, aku-chan said: I find this applies to a lot of their recent minis. For anyone new to their stuff, or coming back after a few years, I'd suggest dry-fitting everything first to make sure you'll actually be able to paint it. Since I paint purely to get a model to the table and not for competition, i generally figure that if I can't get my brush in there, I can't see it anyway, so it doesn't need to be painted. for the 160+ Tyranids i've painted only 2 were painted in pieces, and while my paint jobs won't win ReaperCon, they did win the local store's painting contest last month. As always,You do You, and my opinion and methods are mine alone and should not be contstrued as instructions, merely input. On 6/21/2017 at 7:52 AM, David Brawley said: For those who have the rules and codexs, are chaos cult forces doable in this edition? I have 60+ Khorne Berzerkers and an assortment of Khorne dogs and beastmen/bloodletters. Can I still use them? Yes, Chaos Daemons is a separate army that can be fielded entirely by itself (and can be Chaos undivided OR dedicated exclusively to one of the Big Bad Four) OR CD can be be taken in conjunction with CSM and cultists if you prefer. Options: Daemons of all Chaos deities Daemons of Only 1 Deity of your choice Daemons and Heretic Astartes Daemons and Cultists Some combination of 1-4 as you like. Daemons of Khorne is specifically called out in the Table of Contents as a distinct Army List (within the greater Daemons list, which itself is a sublist within Chaos as a whole). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAuldGrump Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 11 minutes ago, Reaperbryan said: Some of the reasons for that is because 40k has complexity not present in fantasy - mostly transports and Flyers. And part of it is that the public reception of the free fantasy rules... has a whole lot to do with why GW is doing things so very differently this time around. While I could (and have) kvetch about the way they rolled AoS out, it is better, I think, to laud how GW is doing with the roll out of 40K. They learned, and changed things, rather than doubling down on the stupid - and that can be incredibly difficult for a corporate entity to accomplish. (Because it means that somebody has to admit to making a mistake - which is a really good way to stop being a member of said corporate entity.) So, a nice long lead time. Actually soliciting player input (which addresses a problem endemic to GW for decades - to 2nd edition 40K). Bundles to allow a lower entry price. Rules and army lists at a much more reasonable price. They are making progress, and that is a good thing for the industry. The Auld Grump 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reaperbryan Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 To Clarify: Chaos is a Faction. (Imperium is a Faction with it's own subfactions, as are Eldar (with it's own sub-factions), Orc, Tyranid, Tau, Necron, and GSC. Maybe others, I'm blanking.) If you take models ONLY from Chaos, you gain certain benefits (and in fact, I think you MUSt take models only from Chaos, or Imperium or Xenos, but there might be ways to bend that rule for narrative play) * Within Chaos is a Subfaction of CSM. You could take selections from ALL CSM chapters/legions (and lose chapter-specific rules, but gain the heretic-Astartes subfaction rules). * * Within CSM there are Subfactions for each Major Canon Faction (World Eaters, Black legion, Death Guard, etc.) If you limit yourselves to JUST that subfaction you gain THOSE benefits. * Within Chaos is a Subfaction of Chaos. If you take only models from the CD subsection, you gain THOSE benefits. * * Within CD are subfactions for each of the major canon demon lords (Khonre, Nurgle, etc.). If you take models exclusively form ONE of these 4 lists, you gain THOSE benefits. * Within Chaos is a Subfaction of Chaos Knights (the Knight Titan Legions). If you take models from only this list, you gain THOSE benefits. So circles inside circles inside circles, choose the circle that suits you, get access to the models inside any circles that are wholly contained in the circle you have chosen. It is possible to "dip" out of the circle by choosing a detachment form a different subfaction, but not necessary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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