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Good tip about the knee, thanks Mori. I had to think about that one, but it makes sense.
I can give you a tip about sculpting butts: The secret of sculpting butts* is there is no butt. Do not sculpt the butt, just sculpt the backs of the thighs. The butt will just happen**. I figured that out about 10 minutes ago.

 

 

(*probably)
(** sort of)

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On 7/29/2017 at 10:00 AM, Sculptdude said:

It's all looking like very good progress so far!

 

I put a little PDF together that also covers some of the things in my Armatures & Anatomy class that may be useful to you too.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2992100/Armatures.pdf

 

That's amazing, thank you!! I'll be sure to study it when I get back to sculpting tomorrow. ^_^ 

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On 7/29/2017 at 10:00 AM, Sculptdude said:

It's all looking like very good progress so far!

 

I put a little PDF together that also covers some of the things in my Armatures & Anatomy class that may be useful to you too.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2992100/Armatures.pdf

 

Nice write-up, Patrick. 

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Whew. The last 6+ weeks were a mess and a half at home, that's for sure....

[insert personal story here]

 

Quote from Randomness Thread:

Bones IV Pizza Party was a successful recharge! I froze in a corner for a bit once the "big" crowds came in, but I settled back down and was able to enjoy myself, talk to friends, and even create some new art!

 

She was just a doodle - I didn't intend to go very far with her, and especially not to color! But I just kept adding stuff. :lol: 

Meet Nerali Fendyn, my dark elf babe. She's a mage of some sort, only she tends to hit people with her staff instead of casting with it.... She may be familiar to some of you - she was the first face I sculpted last year at ReaperCon 2016.

 

I'm gonna sculpt her! ::D: 

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So.

I need to learn how to sculpt fire, wavy hair, braided hair, leather.

And faces.

Hooo-kay.

 

First step!

References! I have a ton saved on my drive, here are a few examples. Hair, fire, clothes, the time I tried to make her in a video game.... References are nice for all of the things! I like adding some references with a completely different feel to what I want, in case I get more ideas. I also have a skull, some minis, and a fire elemental on my desk for 3D reference. Well, technically they're at the apartment instead of with me right now but you get the idea. ::): 

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Second step!

Draw it a few different ways! See how you like it with different poses, try new ideas, add more than what you need to have. Make sure you can see how all of the sides will look, what we're making is going to occupy real space and will have to look good from every angle. ::D: I'm on that step right now.

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Third step!

Armatures!

The scale I want to do is 1:10, but I'm not finding anything online for scale/measurements. Below I have a bust that I bought last Reapercon (I completely forgot I had her!), and this printed person is close so I did my armature off of that.

Do y'all think 18 gauge wire is okay for FIMO* polymer clay? I did double twist the middle wire after the second photo. Does anyone have any recommendations for sculpting a bust? It's okay to not be perfect scale now, but I'd like to make really good ones one day with some practice!

(*FIMO was suggested by Julie Guthrie and Bob Ridolfi, since I won't have to stress out so much about the fast cure time of GS, and it's much cheaper.)

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Glad to see you posting here again. Your thread makes me want to keep working on my sculpting projects.

 

I think the wire should be ok for fimo. Personally I would bulk up you figure and bake it so you have a solid base for your detail work. Then when you feel you need to lock in the details so you don't mess them up going to more details I would bake again, but a minute or two shorter than recommended. Be careful baking multiple times as I'm not sure how soon a previously baked layer would start to burn and I haven't tried it myself yet.

 

I have a few figures I've bulked out in sculpy so I can do the detail in either more sculpy or green stuff.

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29 minutes ago, Humansquish said:

Glad to see you posting here again. Your thread makes me want to keep working on my sculpting projects.

 

I think the wire should be ok for fimo. Personally I would bulk up you figure and bake it so you have a solid base for your detail work. Then when you feel you need to lock in the details so you don't mess them up going to more details I would bake again, but a minute or two shorter than recommended. Be careful baking multiple times as I'm not sure how soon a previously baked layer would start to burn and I haven't tried it myself yet.

 

I have a few figures I've bulked out in sculpy so I can do the detail in either more sculpy or green stuff.

 

Thanks! Sculpting is fun, I'd love to see some of your projects. ::): 

 

I was going to bulk it up with foil. I am relatively familiar with polymer clay stuff, just never really put the knowledge in action before!

 

I just hope that the armature will be okay. S:

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Have you watched the videos by Tom Mason on youtube?  He does polymer clay and green stuff miniature sculpting.  In one video I watched, his first layer over the armature was green stuff, and he applied Fimo over that while the green stuff was sticky.  Fimo doesn't stick very well to the armature on its own according to Tom.

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7 minutes ago, Serenity said:

Have you watched the videos by Tom Mason on youtube?  He does polymer clay and green stuff miniature sculpting.  In one video I watched, his first layer over the armature was green stuff, and he applied Fimo over that while the green stuff was sticky.  Fimo doesn't stick very well to the armature on its own according to Tom.

 

I'll check it out, thank you! 

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On 6/23/2017 at 10:00 PM, Morihalda said:

06/23/17

Parts that need improvement:
- How to get rid of little extra bits that stick everywhere?

 

I FIGURED IT OUT. I just pretend I'm an archaeologist and use a little brush to dust things away! ::D: 

 

General notes are found everywhere online, this is just my stuff.

Polymer clay notes:

- Dirt dirt dirt dirt dirt. Everywhere, dirt. 
You're amazing if you know where that's from.
We know this already. It's still not great. I keep hand sanitizer around, as well as a bit of spare clay I occassionally roll around to keep my nails and fingers clean.
- With Green Stuff, you can use the hardened bits underneath as stability for cuts and such. That's not the case here unless you bake in sections, or at least the core underpinning.
- That's because it's squishy and never sets!

- This is great because nothing is "set" and you can constantly make changes.
- This is not great because if you move something, a lot of stuff around it changes. So you can't 100% a section and then go somewhere else.
- Buuuut this has a potential to be great if I just keep working everything a bit at a time, keep it all at the same level of completion, and the clay will shift for me if I need to change things.

 

Today's list:
- Watch those videos by Tom Mason!

  Edit: Ooh! His videos look awesome, once I've sculpted this bust, I'm gonna watch them all to make minis. ::D: 
- Post some terrible beginner's faces.
  Edit: Still working on that!

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Hi glad to see your making progress with poly clay. Things started to click for me when I figured out just how gentle I have to be to get it to go where I want. Also I find Fimo far too squishy, I use a Fimo and Super Sculpey Firm mix.

7 hours ago, Morihalda said:

- With Green Stuff, you can use the hardened bits underneath as stability for cuts and such. That's not the case here unless you bake in sections, or at least the core underpinning.
- That's because it's squishy and never sets!

- This is great because nothing is "set" and you can constantly make changes.
- This is not great because if you move something, a lot of stuff around it changes. So you can't 100% a section and then go somewhere else.

 

If you are finding that it's a bit to squishy for what you need to do then try putting it in the frige of 30 minutes and it will firm up abit. 

 

7 hours ago, Morihalda said:

- Watch those videos by Tom Mason!

  Edit: Ooh! His videos look awesome, once I've sculpted this bust, I'm gonna watch them all to make minis. ::D: 

 

He also has a google hangout, at the end of every month, for his patreon supporters, although I think anyone can watch it live on Youtube.

 

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